Vk in drift car with custom Im and not running VVT
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The early R32 was offered as a Type M four door, non-turbo RWD with a hair over 200hp at the crank - this swap was in dire need for those poor Skylines "idhitit2:
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Hogans manifolds will make you one just like that or similar (box style tapered plenum) for a tad over $3000 with fuel rails! lol.
JWT needs to jump back on that FX45 intake manifold NICKSPEED lol. I had talked to one of the reps at JWT and he told me that project was currently on the back burner for now, but not forgotten! Seems like JWT has the adapter plates made but...IIRC is running into slight fitment issues with water neck and fuel rail mounting? The rep was reassuring though, he stated that they won't release it until its a bolt on affair. JWT doesn't want to have to have the customer having to weld etc... just bolt it on and get it tuned. I'd be willing to pay whatever cuz i'm sure JWT's pricing and to purchase your own FX45 manifold would be well under $3000, and most likely under a $1000 if you used stock titan TB with an adapter.
IMO the FX45 manifold equipped with the Relentless 90mm TB would work wonders (20rwhp or so). Ship the manifold to SWAINTECH to get their BBE and white lightning coatings. Not to mention do some portwork on the manifold... I need to get rich some how and do all this trial and error myself lol.
To the OP, that is a sick manifold though, love the skyline type-M GTS-T.
JWT needs to jump back on that FX45 intake manifold NICKSPEED lol. I had talked to one of the reps at JWT and he told me that project was currently on the back burner for now, but not forgotten! Seems like JWT has the adapter plates made but...IIRC is running into slight fitment issues with water neck and fuel rail mounting? The rep was reassuring though, he stated that they won't release it until its a bolt on affair. JWT doesn't want to have to have the customer having to weld etc... just bolt it on and get it tuned. I'd be willing to pay whatever cuz i'm sure JWT's pricing and to purchase your own FX45 manifold would be well under $3000, and most likely under a $1000 if you used stock titan TB with an adapter.
IMO the FX45 manifold equipped with the Relentless 90mm TB would work wonders (20rwhp or so). Ship the manifold to SWAINTECH to get their BBE and white lightning coatings. Not to mention do some portwork on the manifold... I need to get rich some how and do all this trial and error myself lol.
To the OP, that is a sick manifold though, love the skyline type-M GTS-T.
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anyone else notice what looks to be an oil filter relocation right next to the air filter?
I wish there was an intake manifold available for us that wasnt stupid expensive. Getting the mounting plates is the hardest part of the whole thing. Having someone weld up an intake is the easy part.
I wish there was an intake manifold available for us that wasnt stupid expensive. Getting the mounting plates is the hardest part of the whole thing. Having someone weld up an intake is the easy part.
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Yeah I see that what looks like a filter relocation kit as well as an accusump tube to keep pressurized oil flow in high G turns.
Thats one thing about the VK56 though, the factory oil cooler setup is VERYYYYY efficient being that is water/air cooled. I guess to increase benefit on the factory setup is to add a sandwhich plate and run an external bar n plate air cooler...who knows.
Wounder how it runs...
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what do you mean "wonder how it runs? Is it in relation to the vvt not being hooked up? If it is the 04-06I believe are non vvt.. 07+ are vvt motors. All the vvt components are compatable on the 04-06 motors.. you need to swap out the cams to the vvt cams if running an earlier non vvt. Most likely that car is standalone as the stock ECU isnt worth tuning since it is a custom swap and alot of things are eliminated when making a drift or race car. Im in the middle of a vk56 350z drift car.
You can run the 07 vvt motors with out hooking up the vvt. I do not believe they are different camshafts. If they are the 04-07 camshafts will fit in.... kinda wondering if thye did a custom setup why they didnt set the vvt to happen earlier?
.... nice car... like the broken body panels... seriously.. its a race car and dings and dents look good.. the scene of cars is changing.. soon in a few years people will be denting body panels and painting them as is and running zip tie front bumpers lol... if youve been about the new thing in EURO cars is a rusted hood...
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You would be making way to much work for you self to swap non vvt cams in to a vvt motor like is in this car, note the vvt cover on the intake part of the front cover. Cams and springs are different between the 04-06 & 07+ so you would have to change out the intake springs in this motor to run 04-06 cams. the Stock VVT intake springs are softer then the non vvt springs due to the vvt having to move the cam phase. If you put a 04-06 intake cam in it would brake he valve sping by going in to coil bind. If they were going to do all this work and run a manual TB and stand alone why didnt hey get a non vvt motor and put some big cams in it too???
maybe they meant to but never did?... you can run it without it hooked up, but like said it makes no sense... maybe its an 04-06 engine with an 07 front cover (they are compatable).... vvt is nice but not liking the sound of soft valve springs, seems risky...
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Lol did anyone notice the Royal Purple bottle as a catch can haha! I love Nissan people!
Nickspeed, or anyone for that matter lol could you explain to me the cam phaser function on the CVTCS titans? The reason i'm asking is that how come the JWT S7 intake cams couldn't work on the CVTCS engines being that they are only 10deg more in duration at .050 and .3mm more lift than the CS2 cams.
I know the cam phasers allow for a broader torque curve, but how could one use the S7 or even the S2 intake cam profiles with cam phasers? Would a phasing limiter have to be made or some type of lock out device, or would this just all defeat the purpose of cam phasing? Is it that the cam phasing allows more duration/lift at earlier rpms than without the phasers, would this cause piston to valve issues?
I'm sure JWT thought all this and they know what the VK56 can handle, I was just wanting to get the knowledge behind some of this.
go easy on my brotha lol... i'm just wanting to learn lol :bangit:
Nickspeed, or anyone for that matter lol could you explain to me the cam phaser function on the CVTCS titans? The reason i'm asking is that how come the JWT S7 intake cams couldn't work on the CVTCS engines being that they are only 10deg more in duration at .050 and .3mm more lift than the CS2 cams.
I know the cam phasers allow for a broader torque curve, but how could one use the S7 or even the S2 intake cam profiles with cam phasers? Would a phasing limiter have to be made or some type of lock out device, or would this just all defeat the purpose of cam phasing? Is it that the cam phasing allows more duration/lift at earlier rpms than without the phasers, would this cause piston to valve issues?
I'm sure JWT thought all this and they know what the VK56 can handle, I was just wanting to get the knowledge behind some of this.
go easy on my brotha lol... i'm just wanting to learn lol :bangit:
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It's because even though it's just that wee bit bigger, when the vct engages, it will create piston to valve issues and the valves will hit the pistons. The only way to get around it is to have the pistons notched or custom pistons made with bigger reliefs. Or, have the system blocked out to an extent that you limit the travel like on the 3V Mustangs.
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Well looky there, another 4" CAI on our 78mm TB
are you sure? why would nissan create the vct with piston / valve clearance issue? vct is like an additional 15-20hp over a non vct vk56 motor....
the other way to get around it is to use the remove the sensors and there a shaft that is extended to the cam (this may or may not be removable) that runs with the sensor located on the cam front cover.. if its not removable you can make a plate for the sensor or run the non vct front cover..
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I get what both of you are saying. I was just curious to know if a phaser limiter would be effective at being able to utilize the S7 intake cam profile in a CVTCS engine. Seeing how the duration/lift of the CS2 intake cam has lower lift and duration by .3mm (lift) and 10deg(duration). I'm wondering if JWT tried the S7 cam profile without any issues and it just didn't make power with the CVTCS phasing window Nissan provided from the factory...or what...?
JWT knows what they are doing and i'm not doubting any of their products, I'm just curious as if the S7 intake cam profile could theoretically work with the CVTCS system and not have PTV issues.
I think Nickspeed said the VK56(07-newer) phasers can adjust up to 24deg...IIRC..
Now I wouldn't want to eliminate the CVTCS feature, maybe add a limiter on the phaser for a higher lift/duration cam profile such as the S7 on the intake side. If would be worth the gain in power, if any and reliable.
thats the beauty of cam phasers you can adjust the phaser with tuning even with a small cam u can make more power than a bigger cam
i dont think theres a need to swap to the s7 cams i just think they should design a set for high hp applications, boost or nitrous friendly cams
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In a oem vct engine there is no need to worry about clearance issues, its when you want to run a bigger cam than the cs2 cam profile. I talked to the cam engineer at Jim Wolfe and he told me there was no way to run a bigger profile than the cs2 on those engines, even if you tune out and disconnect the whole vct sensor/solenoid/actuator, there's still the chance the valves can hit the pistons. The actuator needs to be physically limited or locked out to run bigger cams than the cs2 cams.
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