what do you mean its didnt pass tier 3?
The Villager Quest joint venture was back in the early 90's, and I haven't seen any other joint ventures since. The Edge engines are Fords, such as their brand new 3.5-liter Duratec 35 V-6 engine. If you have any links to articles that show how Ford and Nissan are tied together in any way, I'd like to read them. And since Ford owns a third of Mazda, and controlling interest in that company, I doubt they are trying to phase out their influence. They share several platforms such as the c1 used on the Volvo S40, Mazda 3, and at least on the European Ford Focus, and the Mazda 6 also shares a different platform with some of the Fords.Titan4mde said:I really didn't expect so much negativity, but hey, everyone's got the right! I don't think it's going to be of the "power stroke" format design. Navistar has many durable platforms other than that. Ford's software integration and them demanding certain things that Navistar doesn't advise from a diesel is where the problem lies in Power Stroke. This is documented in the lawsuit. Nissan and Ford are already tied together and eventually will phase out the Mazda influence if all goes well. The "Edge" engines, new "Taurus", and more. It all started back with the very first Mercury Villager(it was a Quest!) Ford was impressed to say the least and have been working towards more allliances ever since.
Another bit of interesting information. I'm not boo hooing a diesel by any stretch. It is a coming trend in cars as well. Why? Even with the higher cost of diesel at the moment, the cost per mile is low enough to pay for itself in a couple of years compared to a hybrid which can take as long as 6 years.Titan4mde said:Just going by my inside sources. I work for a sister corporation in the construction manufacturing division. My guys ARE NOT rumor makers. They pass facts along to me and I pass them on to the Titan community. The 3.5 in the edge is Nissan's. It is a good venture for both companies. The Mazda thing with Ford is well documented, but was always up for reevaluation. I trust my guys!
Inside sources? Who told you that Fords 3.5L V6 was Nissans? I think you may want to be a little more careful on who you use as sources. That engine is a new Ford designed and built Duratec engine, not a VQ.Titan4mde said:Just going by my inside sources. I work for a sister corporation in the construction manufacturing division. My guys ARE NOT rumor makers. They pass facts along to me and I pass them on to the Titan community. The 3.5 in the edge is Nissan's. It is a good venture for both companies. The Mazda thing with Ford is well documented, but was always up for reevaluation. I trust my guys!
Carbeaux said:Wouldn't an I6 be longer than a V6 or V8? Unless you mount it transversely, and that doesn't make sense.