Douglass Nissan in Orange sold me my SE 4x4 for $800 above invoice. Talk to Juan Carlos,fleet manager, he works hard (located the car and updated me every day) for you, a super nice guy and straight forward. Buena Park Nissan, after hearing my deal with Douglass was willing to let me have it for $750 above invoice but I must buy what they have on their lot. They are very professsional too. Some dealers promised certain amount above invoice but their invoice includes some other charges. Check with www.Edmund.com to get the invoice and start shopping.