Why cant kumho make their MT in a 35x12.50x17.

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PatrickCarter

Discussion Starter · Aug 26, 2007

I want the road venture MTs, but they only come in 16s and 18s, why did kumho skip the 17s? I want to keep the stock rims, but it looks like I either wont be able to get these tires, or I have to go with smaller rims. I guess I could check out that new BFG KM2 that is coming out but I bet they are $$$$

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Anyone know if you can fit 16s on a titan? I didnt really want to go with 18s.

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SDTitan1

· #2 · Aug 26, 2007

Re: KL71 Muds (because this size is available in their older model M/Ts still) .... I went through this myself a few weeks ago, sent a few emails to Kumho asking why and if it's in the works to make one for the public since they have the specs available to CORR drivers .... only answer I was given is there aren't any plans that they're (sales rep who contacted me) aware of .... it's odd, there would be a relatively large demand for them I would imagine...

they ought to get rid of 20+ sizes in my opinion and focus on 17s!

DezertRunner823

· #3 · Aug 26, 2007

CumWhore is retarded cause i'd buy a set if they had them! gonna go the Mantis route and pick me up an uncut set of CORR issue 35x12.5x17" CumHo's then have them mildly grooved then siped.

Yellomantis

· #4 · Aug 26, 2007

I have a set, albeit CORR specific, but they stick like crazy to everything!

DezertRunner823

· #5 · Aug 26, 2007

Yellomantis said:
I have a set, albeit CORR specific, but they stick like crazy to everything!

like a lint roller? :lol: how's the wear been on them?

Yellomantis

· #6 · Aug 26, 2007

hooligan said:
like a lint roller? :lol: how's the wear been on them?

So far so good. Especially since I got an alignment. I really don't expect them to last longer that 15,000 miles though. The most annoying thing about them is they are so sticky, especially when warmed up, that they pick up every pebble or rock on the road. I pull into my driveway and park, there's a coating of pebbles and rocks stuck to the tread! LOL

DezertRunner823

· #7 · Aug 26, 2007

Yellomantis said:
So far so good. Especially since I got an alignment. I really don't expect them to last longer that 15,000 miles though. The most annoying thing about them is they are so sticky, especially when warmed up, that they pick up every pebble or rock on the road. I pull into my driveway and park, there's a coating of pebbles and rocks stuck to the tread! LOL

yeah, scratch that idea! the compound like you say must really be soft, it ain't gonna last as long as i'd need them to. i'm definitely interested in the new BFG MT2s

NorCal 4x4

· #8 · Aug 26, 2007

The Parnelli Jones Dirt Grips look good, especially in the sand but not bad overall. They have them in 35x12.5 and 33x12.5 for both 17" and 18" rim sizes. Check out this review:
http://www.offroaders.com/tech/AT-MT-Tires/parnelli-jones-dirt-grip.htm
Think it will be these or Toyo MTs, (once the AT KOs finally wear out).

DezertRunner823

· #9 · Aug 27, 2007

NorCal 4x4 said:
The Parnelli Jones Dirt Grips look good, especially in the sand but not bad overall. They have them in 35x12.5 and 33x12.5 for both 17" and 18" rim sizes. Check out this review:
http://www.offroaders.com/tech/AT-MT-Tires/parnelli-jones-dirt-grip.htm
Think it will be these or Toyo MTs, (once the AT KOs finally wear out).

nice find NorCal!!! good review, have you found a price?

NorCal 4x4

· #10 · Aug 27, 2007

For the 35x12.5x17 they are about $280 each plus another $27.50 each for shipping, (about $12.50 each to most eastern states), and for 33x12.5x17 $219 each and the same shipping. http://www.ntwonline.com/acb/showdetl.cfm?&DID=48&Product_ID=1211&CATID=10 There are also distributors listed at http://www.dirtgriptires.com/ Some seem like they're wholesale only, but maybe they can direct you to local dealers.

SDTitan1

· #11 · Aug 27, 2007

Yellomantis said:
I really don't expect them to last longer that 15,000 miles though.

damn, didn't expect that! yup, scratch the "get 'em at CORR" idea!

NorCal 4x4

· #12 · Sep 16, 2007 (Edited)

PatrickCarter said:
I want the road venture MTs, but they only come in 16s and 18s, why did kumho skip the 17s? I want to keep the stock rims, but it looks like I either wont be able to get these tires, or I have to go with smaller rims. I guess I could check out that new BFG KM2 that is coming out but I bet they are $$$$

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Anyone know if you can fit 16s on a titan? I didnt really want to go with 18s.

P

A Canadian site lists them in four different sizes of 17s. The 295/70/17 looks like a good choice for the stock 17" rims, for the next two sizes up you'd need at minimum a level kit, probably front mud flap removal, and maybe the pinch-weld-mod.

IMO a 35x12.50x17 inch tire is too wide for the stock 7 1/2" wide rims. The 315 in a BFG and MickeyT are both about 34.5" diameter, but closer to a 305 in width. Kumho specs are not shown on the site, but if similar, would be the largest I'd go with.

Kumho Road Venture MT (KL71) Tires - LT265/70R17 LT265/70R17
Kumho Road Venture MT (KL71) Tires - LT295/70R17 LT295/70R17
Kumho Road Venture MT (KL71) Tires - LT315/70R17 LT315/70R17
Kumho Road Venture MT (KL71) Tires - 35x12.50R17 35x12.50R17

http://www.1010tires.com/tire.asp?tirebrand=Kumho&tiremodel=Road+Venture+MT+(KL71)

Btw, they also sell the Canadian Toyo MT in a LT295/70/17 [edit: I see that the Toyo US site also lists the 295s now] :cheers:

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Fox Delta

· #13 · Sep 16, 2007

The M/T's I have are 33x12.50/17 on the stock OR wheel and IMO they aren't too wide - I've hauled a bed full of firewood -- I did 80 thru Truckee, CA (NOT at the same time LOL) with no issues.
BUT
I wouldn't go any wider than a 12.50 as quite a few companies are making 35X13.50

anyone interested in a Mud Terrain tire should look at the Mickey Thompson Baja MTZ http://www.mickeythompsontires.com/truck.php?item=BajaMTZRadial

NorCal 4x4

· #14 · Sep 16, 2007

Fox Delta said:
The M/T's I have are 33x12.50/17 on the stock OR wheel and IMO they aren't too wide - I've hauled a bed full of firewood -- I did 80 thru Truckee, CA (NOT at the same time LOL) with no issues.
BUT
I wouldn't go any wider than a 12.50 as quite a few companies are making 35X13.50

anyone interested in a Mud Terrain tire should look at the Mickey Thompson Baja MTZ http://www.mickeythompsontires.com/truck.php?item=BajaMTZRadial

Yep those are made by Cooper, and I considered them in the 315/70/17 size for a while.

The problem with too narrow of a rim, can be the center wearing out before the rest of the tire. The MTZ in a 33x12.5x17 is 12.5" wide on a 10" rim, but on a 7.5" rim they get pulled in to around 11.5". Their minimum recommended rim is 8.5".

Also, some 35x12.5x17 tires are wider than 12.5". For example the Toyo MT is 13.2" wide on a 10" rim. On a 7.5" rim 12.2".
With the Kumho, the specs were not given.

Anyway, I just wanted to let people know there are Kumho KL71 MT tires available for 17" rims!

PatrickCarter

Discussion Starter · #15 · Sep 16, 2007

NorCal 4x4 said:
Anyway, I just wanted to let people know there are Kumho KL71 MT tires available for 17" rims!

Freaking cool, well I just found the tires I'm buying, I was thinking I was going to have to settle for something else until now. Now i just have to find some specs on them.

Will 1010tires ship to the us with no problems, i.e. I wouldnt have a problem ordering those tires and getting them here?

Thanks
Patrick

PatrickCarter

Discussion Starter · #16 · Sep 16, 2007

Yellowmantis,

Do you think that the tread wear issues are from being too soft a compound for road use or due to the 12.50" tire being mounted on the 7.5" rim? I have been thinking about having the stock rims widened, since I cant find any others that I like.

Although that rim they show the KL71 on at 1010tires is pretty cool, any idea what that rim is?

Thanks
Patrick

DezertRunner823

· #17 · Sep 16, 2007

PatrickCarter said:
Yellowmantis,

Do you think that the tread wear issues are from being too soft a compound for road use or due to the 12.50" tire being mounted on the 7.5" rim? I have been thinking about having the stock rims widened, since I cant find any others that I like.

Patrick, the set of KL71s that Mantis HAS are CORR (championship off road racing) specific. which means they are built to CORR specs usually of a softer compound to enable better traction. what does this mean to you and me? means, these CORR issued Kumwhores won't last for sh!t. CORR spec'd Kumwhores aren't available to the public or through dealers so i wouldn't worry too much about mistakingly getting a set of them. only way to get a set is to be at the CORR races ( http://www.corracing.com/2007/ ) and hope to score a set.

PatrickCarter

Discussion Starter · #18 · Sep 17, 2007

hooligan said:
Patrick, the set of KL71s that Mantis HAS are CORR (championship off road racing) specific. which means they are built to CORR specs usually of a softer compound to enable better traction. what does this mean to you and me? means, these CORR issued Kumwhores won't last for sh!t. CORR spec'd Kumwhores aren't available to the public or through dealers so i wouldn't worry too much about mistakingly getting a set of them. only way to get a set is to be at the CORR races ( http://www.corracing.com/2007/ ) and hope to score a set.

Uh, I never said anything about "mistakingly" getting a set, I asked if he thought the reason they wore badly was because of using the tire on rim that is on the small side of things for the tire, or because of the compound. I'm fully aware of what a softer compound does for you, I have nitto drag radials on my 500rwhp camaro, and they lasted me about 40k miles, and they are a softer durometer tire then the CORR tires, so I know where you are coming from there. i'm debating getting the 35x12.50x17s or the 295/70/17s, they are about the same price, within 10 bucks, I'm just trying to find specs on the 295s I think that I will have to call Kumho in the AM.

Thanks
Patrick

Yellomantis

· #19 · Sep 17, 2007

PatrickCarter said:
Uh, I never said anything about "mistakingly" getting a set, I asked if he thought the reason they wore badly was because of using the tire on rim that is on the small side of things for the tire, or because of the compound. I'm fully aware of what a softer compound does for you, I have nitto drag radials on my 500rwhp camaro, and they lasted me about 40k miles, and they are a softer durometer tire then the CORR tires, so I know where you are coming from there. i'm debating getting the 35x12.50x17s or the 295/70/17s, they are about the same price, within 10 bucks, I'm just trying to find specs on the 295s I think that I will have to call Kumho in the AM.

Thanks
Patrick

I just got back from the races... These tires kicked azz out there in the muck, and I was in 2wd 99% of the time just to check them out. The durometer on these tires is either a 40 or a 70, I cant remember......:dunno: They will wear out quickly due to the durometer, although I had no wear issues when I had them on my OEM OR wheels, I had to run 32 psi though. On cold mornings I got the annoying low tire pressure warning light blaring me in the face till the tires warmed up. I like them overall. But when they wear out I will be replacing them with the new BFG mud terrains. That is, unless I can score another free set from the races....:clap:

Fox Delta

· #20 · Sep 17, 2007

NorCal 4x4 said:
Yep those are made by Cooper, and I considered them in the 315/70/17 size for a while.

The problem with too narrow of a rim, can be the center wearing out before the rest of the tire. The MTZ in a 33x12.5x17 is 12.5" wide on a 10" rim, but on a 7.5" rim they get pulled in to around 11.5". Their minimum recommended rim is 8.5".

Also, some 35x12.5x17 tires are wider than 12.5". For example the Toyo MT is 13.2" wide on a 10" rim. On a 7.5" rim 12.2".
With the Kumho, the specs were not given.

Anyway, I just wanted to let people know there are Kumho KL71 MT tires available for 17" rims!

Cool -- good info - thanks!
BTW
I haven't had any weird wear patterns so far (16K miles) but I do have to stagger the pressures alot -- 45 front 30 rear to keep from just the center wearing on the rear. I did notice alot of sidewall flex/tread squirm when I got them while I was on the Interstate, hence the high front pressure.
I would follow any Titan with any kind of tires off-road !!

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