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Yet another problem with this Titan.

5.6K views 51 replies 22 participants last post by  Mike Up  
#1 ·
My patience is really starting to run thin with all these nagging quality control issues.

Now my drivers side fender on the bed is rusting. Last night I thought it was tree sap and was trying to get it off when I realized it was the paint bubbling. :flame: Well I scraped some off thinking it was sap, but realized the problem and was hopeful it was just a rock scrape on the clearcoat.

This morning when I could actually 'see' what it was, I was not to happy. The section I scraped away revealed rust and the paint is bubbling all around it in that section. This rust started from inside, not outside, so warranty should cover it no problem. The issue is while my dealership is awesome, they have the worst body shop. They painted my Solar Yellow Xterra "ORANGE" :fu: , when I got rear ended by a lincoln towncar. The problem was just a very small section needed to be painted, yet to blend the paint, they painted the entire section around the rear bumper, with another color. To top it off, they oversprayed it also. I had to take it to Cars and Collision to have them correct the overspray and repaint the Xterra. I don't think warranty items can be handled by a none Nissan body shop. :ugh: Luckly State Farm seen what an aweful job the dealership's body shop did, and made them pay the other body shop to fix it.

To be quite honest, I really wish I would had bought the Toyota Tundra like I had planned to, if I couldn't get the Dodge Ram at a price I wanted.

While I love the ride, power, looks, sound, and everything about the Titan, the nagging problems are really pissing me off. Yeh, they're not that bad, and they've easily been taken care of, but they keep piling up. WHEN WILL THEY STOP. I also just finally got a buzzing in my dash, an additional rattle in my dash, and an annoying squeak in my passengers front seat. Again, minor but they keep coming. When will I have peace?!!!!! The truck use to be dead quiet and all of a sudden these squeaks, rattles, and buzzes just appeared and aren't leaving.

Just had to vent.

Have a good one.
 
#2 ·
Mike, this is one topic I completely agree with you. This is my second Titan. They seem to last for about 3000 miles, then start falling apart. While my truck hasn't seen much pavement(except on the drive to the dealer), My Tundra had 50,000 miles on it when traded and had no problems.
I feel as though I have been robbed of the new car/truck buying experience. I won't even use it on the ranch anymore, I can't stand to listen to the rattles every second I am driving it. I just use it to go to town. That way I only have to listen to the rattles etc. for the 20 minutes it takes to reach pavement.
 
#3 ·
Not that I'm doubting y'all, but I've had my Titan 17500 miles for almost a year now with little problems.

My driver's side seat is coming apart on the back side where map pocket is. Not a quality issue - more of a poor design.

Everything else seems to be holding up well and as I expected. Part of my dash by the passenger side is loose and rattles, but it is obvious what the problem is and I will have the dealership fix it next week.

Honestly, this is a risk yall took buying the first full-sized truck from Nissan. Also, quality isn't 100%, regardless of what manufacturer yall buy from. If Toyota has only 5% of it's vehicles with problems, and Nissan has 8%, that means out of 100 trucks made, Nissan will have 3 more complaints.

Toyota might be better quality wise, but they still make trucks that aren't perfect.
 
#5 ·
I'm sorry to hear that about your truck. I've got about 11,700 on mine and the only problem I've encountered has been the brakes. And the way I look at it, is I have a warranty if anything does happen. Hope everything works out in getting it fixed and keep us updated.
 
#6 ·
My Tundra was a first year model and had no problems. 04 and 05 Titan interiors suck. I bought the Titans for a work truck. Now it is work just to drive it. Other than the interior squeaks and rattles I like the truck. The 05 is turning out like the 04, 80% of the highway miles are driving to the the dealer (150 miles round trip). I wouldn't even mind that if things got fixed. The fixes last about a day. As soon as I hit the dirt roads thing fall apart. I drive on roads like Nissan show in their commercials, although I rarely go over 25mph. I don't have any complaints about rattles
etc. when I am on the highway. The nearest interstate is 200 miles away so I don't know how well it does on those.
 
#7 · (Edited)
aggiesarge said:
I'm sorry to hear that about your truck. I've got about 11,700 on mine and the only problem I've encountered has been the brakes. And the way I look at it, is I have a warranty if anything does happen. Hope everything works out in getting it fixed and keep us updated.
Well my mom and soon to be step father came over and they had their 2004 Mustang Mach 1. He noticed it right away. Unfortunately, he found another spot that was rusted on the rear of the wheel well. The first one was on the front of the wheel well. He agreed that for such a minor rock chip on the rear wheel well, that there shouldn't be any rust. Hell, there's not even a ding. The first one I talked of, definitely has the paint bubbling. This is just plain BS. What the hell has happened to Nissan. My 2000 Xterra had no TSBs other than 3M tape that was needed for the wind deflector. It was a first model also. I didn't have any of these paint problems. My Xterra got plenty of rock chips but none ever rusted.

Everything on my truck that was fixed was a TSB so Nissan knew it was a production/engineering problem. The only things that were cosmetic and were not TSBs, were my sliding rear window weatherstripping and the rear seat headrest.

Are you guys finding rusty rock chips around your rear wheel fender lips??

Have a good one.
 
#8 ·
I do have a couple of rock chips but none of them are rusting. I normally offroad in my Titan once every two weeks due to the location of our lake house and so far, I'm very impressed on how my truck handles. Lot's of bumps, rocks, mud, etc and she handles like a champ. I guess I must have one of the "GOOD TITANS"..... :D
 
#9 ·
sorry to hear about your complaints but I dont have any on mine...I have one rattle from the drivers door with the window closed and one rattle from the same window but that is getting fixed next week..maybe the fix will take care of both rattles...
 
#11 ·
Not to take away from the legitimate problems you may have, who is to say that the Tundra you wanted wouldn't have had problems also. One problem the Tundra that I had experienced was the brake judder as well considering they put the wrong size brakes on the 2002 models and had a TSB to resolve it, so it's not something that is limited to the Titan. I have almost 10K on my Titan and have not really had any major problems other than the brake judder. Regardless of what you purchase, you're gonna have some kind of issue with it. There is no such thing as a perfect vehicle. I admit I have shakes and rattles on my Titan, but what do you expect from driving on the roads around this country. You're gonna get that from any vehicle....just some people dislike it more than the next guy, but again goes back to there being no such thing as a perfect vehicle. As a whole, I think Nissan has done a good job, but as with any car mfg, it's a continuing process to improve as there are ALOT of things that a consumer will do to a vehicle that the mfg never experienced in their testing process.
 
#12 · (Edited)
Bed Replacement??

MikeUp..........sorry to hear about your Titan problems. Maybe your dealer can order a complete bed with fenders already factory painted verses repairing yours? If the rust is underneath the paint then they need to replace it.
All your other issues are minor..just have to get them taken care of...all at once I hope! Good luck.
Peace-Tom:cheers:Highland Ale:cheers:
 
#13 ·
Mike Up said:
Well my mom and soon to be step father came over and they had their 2004 Mustang Mach 1. He noticed it right away. Unfortunately, he found another spot that was rusted on the rear of the wheel well. The first one was on the front of the wheel well. He agreed that for such a minor rock chip on the rear wheel well, that there shouldn't be any rust. Hell, there's not even a ding. The first one I talked of, definitely has the paint bubbling. This is just plain BS. What the hell has happened to Nissan. My 2000 Xterra had no TSBs other than 3M tape that was needed for the wind deflector. It was a first model also. I didn't have any of these paint problems. My Xterra got plenty of rock chips but none ever rusted.

Everything on my truck that was fixed was a TSB so Nissan knew it was a production/engineering problem. The only things that were cosmetic and were not TSBs, were my sliding rear window weatherstripping and the rear seat headrest.

Are you guys finding rusty rock chips around your rear wheel fender lips??

Have a good one.
My brothers Xterra was only few weeks old and got a few very minor scratches from luggage. Those scatches rusted within a few weeks. Don't think the paint job is any better. I just think the sheet metal is getting thinner & thinner and paint is cheaper to keep cost down. Not just Nissan but all brands.
 
#14 · (Edited)
honeykeeper said:
MikeUp..........sorry to hear about your Titan problems. Maybe your dealer can order a complete bed with fenders already factory painted verses repairing yours? If the rust is underneath then they need to replace it.
All your other issues are minor..just have to get them taken care of...all at once I hope! Good luck.
Peace-Tom:cheers:Highland Ale:cheers:
My soon to be step father thinks that they can be repaired easy but the fact that they have rust on them is the troubling part. He's a steelworker and believes that the steel had contaminents on it when it was painted. They didn't clean it well enough. I'll talk to my dealer and hear their explanations. It's just unsettling to have rust on a new vehicle. Granted it's not a lot and they are very small chips. To tell the truth, I don't even see any primer on it and perhaps that's the main reason.

If it is a major defect in the prep or painting of the bed, perhaps I'll try the buy back option. Nissan seems pretty reasonable in allowing this. I wouldn't want an '05 bed on an '04. Reason is that it will look salvaged. People who are in the car business usually know what options are suppose to be on certain model years. I like my vehicles to be in original stock form and having '05 parts on an '04 doesn't sit to well with me especially when it's a major cosmetic body area.

Well, this will be my first trip to the dealer that isn't for an oil change. I just don't want this rust to go without treatment.

Have a good one.
 
#15 ·
kslicker said:
My brothers Xterra was only few weeks old and got a few very minor scratches from luggage. Those scatches rusted within a few weeks. Don't think the paint job is any better. I just think the sheet metal is getting thinner & thinner and paint is cheaper to keep cost down. Not just Nissan but all brands.
Well I hope that rust isn't something to expect because if it is with this Nissan, it will undoubtedly be my last.

Have a good one.
 
#16 ·
32,000 miles on mine, minor problems here and there, which i've dealt with... brakes soon to be dealt with... minor rattles come and go. i love my truck and although i too almost bought a tundra i'm much happier knowing i'm in a titan. 32k and she still kicks the crap out of tundras, legs out hemis and laps f150s and silverados... sh!t is going to happen, hell it happens to me - gas gauge malfunctioning but i'm getting it taken care of and if it isn't fixed well then back she goes. I KNEW DAMN WELL WHAT I WAS GETTING MYSELF INTO WHEN I BOUGHT THE TITAN AND PREPARED MYSELF FOR THE ONSLAUGHT OF MINOR NUIANCES, ESPECIALLY FOR THE 1ST YEAR PRODUCTION MODEL... tundras had problems their first year, F150s, as well as their latest design has them, dodge had them, chevy had them and still do have them, but i feel berating nissan for not coming out with perfection the first year is beyond me. what they've produced in their first year of the titan is quite frankly amazing considered they built them from scratch. you would think companies like the big 3 and toyota would have infalliable products considering how much time they've had in the truck market but they're still f*cking up. Nissan's first year in the full-size truck market and they've done quite well with the exception of a few minor things but give them time and they'll iron those out, for now first and second year titan owners need to be patient and understanding. hey but jump ship whenever cause i don't give a damn if there's one less titan owner due to impatience... :bye:

sorry, i JUST felt the need to vent... :flame: :fart:
 
#17 ·
tortuga said:
32,000 miles on mine, minor problems here and there, which i've dealt with... brakes soon to be dealt with... minor rattles come and go. i love my truck and although i too almost bought a tundra i'm much happier knowing i'm in a titan. 32k and she still kicks the crap out of tundras, legs out hemis and laps f150s and silverados... sh!t is going to happen, hell it happens to me - gas gauge malfunctioning but i'm getting it taken care of and if it isn't fixed well then back she goes. I KNEW DAMN WELL WHAT I WAS GETTING MYSELF INTO WHEN I BOUGHT THE TITAN AND PREPARED MYSELF FOR THE ONSLAUGHT OF MINOR NUIANCES, ESPECIALLY FOR THE 1ST YEAR PRODUCTION MODEL... tundras had problems their first year, F150s, as well as their latest design has them, dodge had them, chevy had them and still do have them, but i feel berating nissan for not coming out with perfection the first year is beyond me. what they've produced in their first year of the titan is quite frankly amazing considered they built them from scratch. you would think companies like the big 3 and toyota would have infalliable products considering how much time they've had in the truck market but they're still f*cking up. Nissan's first year in the full-size truck market and they've done quite well with the exception of a few minor things but give them time and they'll iron those out, for now first and second year titan owners need to be patient and understanding. hey but jump ship whenever cause i don't give a damn if there's one less titan owner due to impatience... :bye:

sorry, i JUST felt the need to vent... :flame: :fart:

What he said. :bump:
 
#18 ·
tortuga said:
32,000 miles on mine, minor problems here and there, which i've dealt with... brakes soon to be dealt with... minor rattles come and go. i love my truck and although i too almost bought a tundra i'm much happier knowing i'm in a titan. 32k and she still kicks the crap out of tundras, legs out hemis and laps f150s and silverados... sh!t is going to happen, hell it happens to me - gas gauge malfunctioning but i'm getting it taken care of and if it isn't fixed well then back she goes. I KNEW DAMN WELL WHAT I WAS GETTING MYSELF INTO WHEN I BOUGHT THE TITAN AND PREPARED MYSELF FOR THE ONSLAUGHT OF MINOR NUIANCES, ESPECIALLY FOR THE 1ST YEAR PRODUCTION MODEL... tundras had problems their first year, F150s, as well as their latest design has them, dodge had them, chevy had them and still do have them, but i feel berating nissan for not coming out with perfection the first year is beyond me. what they've produced in their first year of the titan is quite frankly amazing considered they built them from scratch. you would think companies like the big 3 and toyota would have infalliable products considering how much time they've had in the truck market but they're still f*cking up. Nissan's first year in the full-size truck market and they've done quite well with the exception of a few minor things but give them time and they'll iron those out, for now first and second year titan owners need to be patient and understanding. hey but jump ship whenever cause i don't give a damn if there's one less titan owner due to impatience... :bye:

sorry, i JUST felt the need to vent... :flame: :fart:
Amen tort!
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#19 ·
tortuga said:
32,000 miles on mine, minor problems here and there, which i've dealt with... brakes soon to be dealt with... minor rattles come and go. i love my truck and although i too almost bought a tundra i'm much happier knowing i'm in a titan. 32k and she still kicks the crap out of tundras, legs out hemis and laps f150s and silverados... sh!t is going to happen, hell it happens to me - gas gauge malfunctioning but i'm getting it taken care of and if it isn't fixed well then back she goes. I KNEW DAMN WELL WHAT I WAS GETTING MYSELF INTO WHEN I BOUGHT THE TITAN AND PREPARED MYSELF FOR THE ONSLAUGHT OF MINOR NUIANCES, ESPECIALLY FOR THE 1ST YEAR PRODUCTION MODEL... tundras had problems their first year, F150s, as well as their latest design has them, dodge had them, chevy had them and still do have them, but i feel berating nissan for not coming out with perfection the first year is beyond me. what they've produced in their first year of the titan is quite frankly amazing considered they built them from scratch. you would think companies like the big 3 and toyota would have infalliable products considering how much time they've had in the truck market but they're still f*cking up. Nissan's first year in the full-size truck market and they've done quite well with the exception of a few minor things but give them time and they'll iron those out, for now first and second year titan owners need to be patient and understanding. hey but jump ship whenever cause i don't give a damn if there's one less titan owner due to impatience... :bye:

sorry, i JUST felt the need to vent... :flame: :fart:
I've been there with a first year model, my Nissan 2000 SE 4X4. I expected the quality in the $31,370 MSRP Titan to have the same quality I had with my $26,000 MSRP Xterra. It had a few problems, but not the amount that's adding up quick with the Titan. In fact I would never go with a first model year vehicle. The Xterra was the exception and proved to be a great vehicle. The only reason I went with the Titan is that I felt that Nissan's quality was better in their first year than other maker's quality in a mature line. I guess I was wrong and would had never gone with the Titan, if I knew then, what I know today.

Regardless, I can get over it when problems don't keep adding. With the Titan, the problems just don't stop and that's what I'm pissed about. I was an advocate for the Titan, but now I'm wondering about it as it's just one problem after another. Another thing, Nissan sends me surveys on the dealership, which is excellent. I wish they'd send me a survey on the vehicle itself, and then I could give them an ear full, but they don't.

The other problems didn't bother me like this RUST is bothering me. Rust is like a cancer. It's hard to get rid of when it sets in. If it's going to rust so easily from chips, this truck will be heap of rust in a matter of years. I hope Nissan has a fix for this rust that will stop it dead in it's tracks so it doesn't keep spreading.

Later
 
#20 ·
Well, my 2004 has over 16K on it and just the basic problems with the radio, had the seat cover replaced twice and the brake judder issues.

I cannot recall a single vehicle that I've owned that has been delivered in perfect, or even acceptable condition. If you look for it, you'll certainly find something wrong with just about everything around us.

I feel for your rust issues, but you should be speaking with the dealer to get that panel replaced.
 
#21 ·
Mike Up said:
I've been there with a first year model, my Nissan 2000 SE 4X4. I expected the quality in the $31,370 MSRP Titan to have the same quality I had with my $26,000 MSRP Xterra. It had a few problems, but not the amount that's adding up quick with the Titan. In fact I would never go with a first model year vehicle. The Xterra was the exception and proved to be a great vehicle. The only reason I went with the Titan is that I felt that Nissan's quality was better in their first year than other maker's quality in a mature line. I guess I was wrong and would had never gone with the Titan, if I knew then, what I know today.

Regardless, I can get over it when problems don't keep adding. With the Titan, the problems just don't stop and that's what I'm pissed about. I was an advocate for the Titan, but now I'm wondering about it as it's just one problem after another. Another thing, Nissan sends me surveys on the dealership, which is excellent. I wish they'd send me a survey on the vehicle itself, and then I could give them an ear full, but they don't.

The other problems didn't bother me like this RUST is bothering me. Rust is like a cancer. It's hard to get rid of when it sets in. If it's going to rust so easily from chips, this truck will be heap of rust in a matter of years. I hope Nissan has a fix for this rust that will stop it dead in it's tracks so it doesn't keep spreading.

Later

it seems as if your not going to ever be happy with your titan...maybe you should just cut your loses and trade it in....I am sorry you are having problems with your titan but you dont want to be paying off a truck your not happy with...I had an 02 Explorer that I wanted to keep for a long time but too many problems, I was in service about 3 times a month for different problems, so I traded it in. My titan had a few minor issues but there's not a problem with mine anymore...
 
#22 · (Edited)
jhromy said:
it seems as if your not going to ever be happy with your titan...maybe you should just cut your loses and trade it in....I am sorry you are having problems with your titan but you dont want to be paying off a truck your not happy with...I had an 02 Explorer that I wanted to keep for a long time but too many problems, I was in service about 3 times a month for different problems, so I traded it in. My titan had a few minor issues but there's not a problem with mine anymore...
If the problems were all fixed on the next visit, and I only have the rare problem here and there, I'm OK. It's that things right now keep adding up 'quick'. If they would slow to a trickle, I wouldn't be so agravated with it.

The rust is another matter all of it's own.

Well I really don't want to get rid of it. I just want the problems to stop. I really like the truck as I said. Another thing, even if I did trade it in on another truck, I'd probably lose about $3K then have to spend about $3K more than what I paid for my Titan, on another truck since year end deals are gone.

To be honest, I wouldn't know what truck to get other than a Tundra. It's possible I'd come out good, but I really don't want to spend another $6,000, as I have other things to do with that money.

I'll see, but with the rust issue, I may try for a buy back. I'll have to talk to the service guys and get their opinions. They're straight up guys that have excellent work ethics. If I'm going to have to worry about the bed rusting or if it wasn't prepped or painted correctly, I'll settle for no less than a buy back or a very attractive trade-in offer on something else.

Have a good one.
 
#23 ·
Mike I hope you end up getting your problems straightened out. I felt your pain my brother. No rust but brakes, squeeks, rough idle, mud flaps falling off, seat belt not rolling up was pushing me to the breaking point too. My service person a few of the mechanics and i got to know one another on a first name basis. http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/04_20/b3883053.htm
If you check this out you will see that nissan quality is dropping.
Anyway what ever you do, dont feel bad for expecting better. I really think if it wasnt for all the good folks on here and there advice on fixing some of the problems i couldnt of held on this long before i got rid of my truck. I really was sick of having to call, make an appointment, take the time to go to the dealer only to hear sir we found your problem but you will have to bring it back as parts are on back order. I think nissans attitude is what pushed me to the edge, that and the fact the mechanic and service advisor said they were having a hard time looking people in the face always having to say we cant help you cause we cant get the parts.
All I can say is if you try to trade in shop around. My titan was like the old saying about a boat owner. Best two days of a boat owner life are the day he bought it and the day he sold it.
 
#24 ·
funny how people think since they have no problems that no one else does and they are just making it up. this is where you post problems. the people that say "i don't have any problems and i have x amount of miles. i am not calling you a liar but-" and add the ridiculing comment here. the ones that get on here and say crap like this should even input their comment. THERE ARE PROBLEMS WITH THE TITAN. BELIEVE IT. IF YOU DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEMS BE GRATEFULL.
 
#25 ·
Titan69 said:
funny how people think since they have no problems that no one else does and they are just making it up. this is where you post problems. the people that say "i don't have any problems and i have x amount of miles. i am not calling you a liar but-" and add the ridiculing comment here. the ones that get on here and say crap like this should even input their comment. THERE ARE PROBLEMS WITH THE TITAN. BELIEVE IT. IF YOU DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEMS BE GRATEFULL.
So while were on the subject what's your problem?



With your truck. :D
 
#26 ·
the dash was replaced due to constant rattles and damage by the dealer ship trying to fix. the new dash is starting to crack, waiting on nissan to make a decision regarding the dash again. brakes have been redone three times and the new kit was not installed two weeks ago when i took it in for the third brake job. the tailgate hinges where bent from factory and was suppose to be replaced with new ones per the nissan rep. the dealership received the hinges and painted them. called me to bring it in to have them replaced. they lost them and had to pull mine off and straighten them. the kc rear door on the passenger side had to be replaced broken from factory. rear end clunks. guess i will have to wait for that to go out before they do any thing regarding it. i guess that is what i get, regarding the rear end, if i wanted a truck that you could not pull over 5000 lbs with out damaging the rear end, i would have bought a frontier. oh yeah, i only have 17500 miles. it has been in the shop thirteen times and will have to go back at least two more times for brakes and dash. maybe even a third time when the rear end goes out. so now i am looking at 15 to 16 times and that is if they can get the dash fixed properly when it goes in and no other problems arise after that. is this enough or do i need more issues with this truck. Some are just lemons, it is the first year so they will have more lemons than the second year. hopefully they fixed most of the issues with the 05 over the 04.