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PapaRhino said:
don't care what the magazine says, I am happy with my 04 Titan.
Something to this effect was exactly what I was coming back to this silly thread to post. I like my truck. I could give a flip about CR.
 
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skyhammer said:
I am very familiar with upstate NY. I was stationed at Ft. Drum for Years. I am surprised that the Army chose to station its only Mountain Division where there are no mountains, just old worn down hills. Also most of my family is from NH.
Obviously if the door latch is broken the door won't close, as that is its function.It is a heavily stressed part, as that is what keeps the door closed. You can see in the picture how mine is already worn down.
You must not have read the above post, our Dodge and Ford don't have any problems with our roads.
Even our 1980 gutless Mazda 2WD Trucks managed not to fall apart on our roads.
If you're trying to tell us that you've beaten on all those trucks, and they're all 1/2 tons with no problems, sorry pal...I have to call BS. There's either something you're not telling us or you're a troll....sorry. None of us were born yesterday. It just doesn't add up. Out of all the Titans Nissan has sold, only you have had one actually fall apart before your eyes. I'm not buying it.
 
They must have seen my dealer invoices. Just got it back last week been in shop and out of service since labor day!!!!!!!!!!!!. falling brake pedal!!!!!!!!factory guy supposedly just adjusted brake rod on back of pedal. yeah right! Took 6 weeks to get him out. Truck towed to dealer twice In this time. Pedal to floor. been in and out of shop(2) monthly since april. Check engine light came on yesterday. It's been home 6 days. Any body wan't a good deal on a Reliable TITAN, only 30k easy driving!
 
Wildmike said:
I have had my Titan for 1 year now. 13K I went to the dealer once to get the parking brake tightened up. Could of done it myself. It still has no squeaks or rattles. Most of the time I am nice to the Titan. But when I am not I'M not. Several times a week I run her up to 90/100 from a 20mph roll. Probly done at least 50-100 burnoffs at least 10-20 in reverse. My Tach sees 5K most every time I drive it.

On the other hand I take care of it. Seat covers on the front seats, extra set of floor mats protecting the factory ones. Huge towel across the rear seat. Have my boys vacumn it once a week.

I believe in having the vehicle still look new after i get it paid off. Need to get 10-15 years out of this truck. Got 12 years/160k out of my '87 Hardbody.
I still have my 88 hardbody and love it almost as much as my Titan because it has been so good to me with 218k on her.
 
And I got 8 VERY HARD years out of my first Nissan truck. The Nissan 200SX I had was running great, right up until it ran into a deer. The car and deer both lost that battle. The first truck had about 120k on it when I sold it. The guy who bought it drove it for at least another few years. It was just too small for my growing family though. The car had about 155k on it and was running well. I don't know how long it would have gone.
 
I looked at the CR review before I bought my truck & determined that it was a cut & paste job from 04, the same thing they did in the 05 review. I haven't seen the 07 review, but would venture to guess that it's another cut & paste job from the original 04 review.

I don't put much stock in CRs reviews, there are more reliable sources to determine the reliability of a Titan such as this forum. I did a lot of research here as well as a F150 board before making my decision to buy a Titan. There was a lot more complaining about the new F150s than the new Titans.

This site also helped my get the lowest price after a lot of research, unlike the poor guy in another thread that didn't do his homework & paid $25K too much.
 
skyhammer said:
I can agree that I may be on the fringe of normal use, but I don't treat my Titan nearly as bad as Nissan does in their Titan commercials.
Also, my 2000 Tundra had no problems handling the same terrain for 4 years and 50k miles. My 85 Toyota has rarely seen pavement and has 45k miles on the ranch and has never been to the dealer. Same goes for our 95 F-350 and
98 Dodge 3500, although they are used mainly for hauling cattle and horse trailers.
The Titan is a good concept, they just use sub standard parts that won't hold up to tough work. After all, it is a 4X4 off road, it should be able to take it. When bought my first Titan, the dealership showed me a video of the Titan taking a lot more abuse than I ever have ever given the Titan. Nissan should dump the ABLS and use a real LSD, and they should upgrade the doors
by using metal parts instead of plastic, that would go a long way towards improving reliability.
I also am willing to bet that if I had a plain jane XE with manual windows(therefore much lighter doors),I wouldn't have nearly as many door problems.
You have some valid points and please don't take this the wrong way, maybe you should go back to the Toyota, I heard they have a bad a_ss Tundra coming out.
 
Nissan makes one Hell of a motor and the power train and ride are awesome:thedevil: . The rest of the truck is ok and I probably would have no better luck with the big 3....I don't want to sound negative about Nissan. I highly recommend the Titan over the other Brands. I would consider the F250 too, but look what place that took
 
HudsonValleyTitan said:
If you're trying to tell us that you've beaten on all those trucks, and they're all 1/2 tons with no problems, sorry pal...I have to call BS. There's either something you're not telling us or you're a troll....sorry. None of us were born yesterday. It just doesn't add up. Out of all the Titans Nissan has sold, only you have had one actually fall apart before your eyes. I'm not buying it.
HVT, you obviously haven't read my posts. A F-350 and a Dodge 3500 are 1 ton trucks. I also never said that I hand no problems with my other trucks. I said they never had to go back to the dealer, unlike my 05 Titan which has been to the dealer 25 times in 23 months, and that doesn't count the 04 miserable performance.
In your eyes I am a troll. I guess you can call me that because I have been a member here since April of 04. Do a search of all my posts, you will find that the majority of them have nothing to do with the Titans lack of quality.
Unlike you, I haven't wasted my time fighting a losing battle over how sludge
does or does not form, or which octane give better performance, or saying how great the worthless Ragged Trail tires are, or saying that when towing a trailer just put in drive and go.
In other words, just because you don't agree with something or can't fathom how someone who lives and works in an entirely different environment than you
can have a completely different experience With Titan, doesn't mean it is not
true.
I am far from the only person that has had a bad experience with the Titan.
Many people who live where I do have had similar problems with their Titan.
If you had read some other threads you would have known that a timber company got rid of their 6 05,SE's because they were in the shop all the time.
I know it is hard for a city boy to understand what it is like to drive on our roads. My County is about 200 miles long X 50-75 miles wide. We have one main highway mainly 2 lanes that runs N-S and is closed several weeks each year. We have two highways that run W-E that are 1-2 lanes and are closed much of the time. We have 1200 miles of mostly unpaved county roads and 20
times that many miles of private unpaved roads. Our counties road budget is
$8 million, before last winter (130"+ of rain) we need $36 Million just for repairs to the county roads.
The Titan is just not up to driving on our roads. Nissan needs to upgrade their parts. Perhaps that is why Toyota's cost more than the Titan, they spend more on quality parts.
OH!, you said that the plastic door latch is actually just plastic coated metal. Better look again, 80% or more of that latch is plastic, it just has metal
inserts and sleeves in the high wear areas. That is just one of many examples where Nissan saved by using cheap parts that break instead of using a metal part that that cost a little more but doesn't break.Sure, these cheap parts
are adequate for most people that only occasionally drive on rough roads, but for those of us that see pavement only occasionally and driving on dirt roads is the norm, poor quality parts show up immediately.
 
Let me see... I owned a 00 Tundra SR5 4x4. Replaced two rear axles, one through warranty & one out of pocket. Had steering wheel vibration immediately after purchase. Rear cargo lamp fried to the protective covering, trailor hitch wiring recall, brake recall and problems more than once, tires out of round after the 1st month of ownership and had to replace the tires and wheels myself to alleviate the problem. Dash board squeaked when the temp got cold outside, fuse problems, exhaust problems, manifold leaked, and numerous little stuff that drove me absolutely crazy. I put a whopping 56k on my Tundra, kept it garaged and well maintained and it was still a huge POS! CR needs to drive the vehicles every year that they come out, not just a certain model year and keep using the same worn out review over and over again until it makes or breaks a vehicle. Trust me, the Tundra isn't as reliable and as great as CR leads folks to believe. As a matter of fact, my wife and I decided that, even if the Titan is a lemon, it couldn't be much worse than the Tundra was. I was grateful that I sold it for a small profit and had a drink and a cigar after the check was deposited into my bank!

CR can kiss my ***, as I have been dealing on a Titan as of yesterday, but I walked out last nite over a percentage point on financing. They'll call back and I'll be driving a "man's man" truck very soon. Not a finesse driving, truck wannabe like the Tundra!

Also, I have seen the pics of the 07 Tundra and it looks very strange and not personally attractive to me or my wife at all.

BTW, this is my 1st post on this site and I hope to have many more.

Happy Thanksgiving!
 
Skyhammer, My question to you is...if Nissan bought back the first Titan, why did you buy another?

The fact that your older trucks fare better on your roads is simple...old trucks were built to a higher, tougher standard than today's versions, with less cheap plastic to squeek at the first sign of a rock.

Gimme a 76 F250 460 C6 4X2 anytime...one of the best trucks ever built...before CAFE standards, and the corruption of pickups into boulevard cruisers.
 
Thanks for your input TitanThunder! Best of luck on your purchase. You're going to enjoy your Titan a great deal, I'm certain of it! :D
 
TitanThunder said:
Let me see... I owned a 00 Tundra SR5 4x4. Replaced two rear axles, one through warranty & one out of pocket. Had steering wheel vibration immediately after purchase. Rear cargo lamp fried to the protective covering, trailor hitch wiring recall, brake recall and problems more than once, tires out of round after the 1st month of ownership and had to replace the tires and wheels myself to alleviate the problem. Dash board squeaked when the temp got cold outside, fuse problems, exhaust problems, manifold leaked, and numerous little stuff that drove me absolutely crazy. I put a whopping 56k on my Tundra, kept it garaged and well maintained and it was still a huge POS! CR needs to drive the vehicles every year that they come out, not just a certain model year and keep using the same worn out review over and over again until it makes or breaks a vehicle. Trust me, the Tundra isn't as reliable and as great as CR leads folks to believe. As a matter of fact, my wife and I decided that, even if the Titan is a lemon, it couldn't be much worse than the Tundra was. I was grateful that I sold it for a small profit and had a drink and a cigar after the check was deposited into my bank!

CR can kiss my ***, as I have been dealing on a Titan as of yesterday, but I walked out last nite over a percentage point on financing. They'll call back and I'll be driving a "man's man" truck very soon. Not a finesse driving, truck wannabe like the Tundra!

Also, I have seen the pics of the 07 Tundra and it looks very strange and not personally attractive to me or my wife at all.

BTW, this is my 1st post on this site and I hope to have many more.

Happy Thanksgiving!
Welcome to TT!
 
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skyhammer said:
HVT, you obviously haven't read my posts. A F-350 and a Dodge 3500 are 1 ton trucks. I also never said that I hand no problems with my other trucks. I said they never had to go back to the dealer, unlike my 05 Titan which has been to the dealer 25 times in 23 months, and that doesn't count the 04 miserable performance.
In your eyes I am a troll. I guess you can call me that because I have been a member here since April of 04. Do a search of all my posts, you will find that the majority of them have nothing to do with the Titans lack of quality.
Unlike you, I haven't wasted my time fighting a losing battle over how sludge
does or does not form, or which octane give better performance, or saying how great the worthless Ragged Trail tires are, or saying that when towing a trailer just put in drive and go.
In other words, just because you don't agree with something or can't fathom how someone who lives and works in an entirely different environment than you
can have a completely different experience With Titan, doesn't mean it is not
true.
I am far from the only person that has had a bad experience with the Titan.
Many people who live where I do have had similar problems with their Titan.
If you had read some other threads you would have known that a timber company got rid of their 6 05,SE's because they were in the shop all the time.
I know it is hard for a city boy to understand what it is like to drive on our roads. My County is about 200 miles long X 50-75 miles wide. We have one main highway mainly 2 lanes that runs N-S and is closed several weeks each year. We have two highways that run W-E that are 1-2 lanes and are closed much of the time. We have 1200 miles of mostly unpaved county roads and 20
times that many miles of private unpaved roads. Our counties road budget is
$8 million, before last winter (130"+ of rain) we need $36 Million just for repairs to the county roads.
The Titan is just not up to driving on our roads. Nissan needs to upgrade their parts. Perhaps that is why Toyota's cost more than the Titan, they spend more on quality parts.
OH!, you said that the plastic door latch is actually just plastic coated metal. Better look again, 80% or more of that latch is plastic, it just has metal
inserts and sleeves in the high wear areas. That is just one of many examples where Nissan saved by using cheap parts that break instead of using a metal part that that cost a little more but doesn't break.Sure, these cheap parts
are adequate for most people that only occasionally drive on rough roads, but for those of us that see pavement only occasionally and driving on dirt roads is the norm, poor quality parts show up immediately.
Ok, understandable I guess. But as asked earlier, why then did you get another Titan when Nissan bought yours back? If everything you're saying is legit, I'm not sure ANY of todays trucks are going to be up to the abuse you put trucks through.
As for that "plastic" latch is concerned, once closed, there is no stress on anything plastic while the door is closed so....do you continiously open and close the doors like one of those testing robots?...lol. At any rate, I do hope you find a truck that works for you. Maybe a good 1 ton dually would hold up better.
I do also have to give you kudos for keeping things a bit more civil than I sometimes tend to. For that I thank you.
 
The problem with the door latch is that the metal parts that revive most of the stress are embedded in the plastic, and that is weak link, the door latch is only as strong as its weakest part.
Yes, I guess I do open and close my doors a lot. I live on a ranch and I am constantly driving a short distance and getting in and out. I would guess that on most days my drivers side door is opened and closed 50 or more times a day, same thing goes for the windows.
I just added up how many miles of road we have on the ranch. We have about 20 miles of main roads and another 30 miles of skid roads and cattle trails that I only take my old Toyota or Jeep on.
It might seem like that is a lot of roads for 4000 acres, but you have to remember that all land is measured as if were flat. Our land is decidedly not flat. If you take 40 acres as an example, if it is flat and has equal sides it would measure 1320 feet on each side. To walk a lot of our 40 acre parcels you would have to walk nearly a mile to cover a surveyed 1320 feet, because of all of the hills and ravines etc., plus you would never be able to walk in a straight line.
The reason I got a second Titan is because I thought the first Titan failure was just a fluke, I now know better. I have never abused the Titan, the only truck I abuse is the 26 year old Toyota, I am not foolish enough to abuse a $35k new truck. I guess it is a matter of perspective as to what constitutes abuse, and it varies from person to person.
I have never found it useful in a discussion to call people names or to insult them. Although from time to time I have fallen into that trap and usually regretted it later.
In this thread I went a little overboard, in my opinion, when my veracity was questioned.
 
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