im thinking of selling the titan /trading it for a diesel truck..looking at the f250from 2001 to 2006. which year was bad. i heard that the 2002 to 2007 f-250 6.0L were bad engines...any comments....
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CLG summed it all up pretty well. i'm just going to add my knowledge to it. The reason that all the die hard Ford Diesel guys did not like the 6.0 is not only because the '03-'04 were plagued w/ problems (which was caused not doing enough R&D out in the real world and only testing on dynos), but because they were used to the 7.3. the 7.3 was an absolute bulletproof motor. i mean you could go w/o and oil change on conventional oil for 15K miles. all of a sudden your truck starts running bad and you think OMG my engine is shot. so you go in a change the oil, and it felt like you just picked it up off the lot again. if i were you i would look at getting an '05-'07 since all the kinks were worked out by that model year, and depending upon where you live, they might even still have some new '07's left. Now the 6.0 is a great motor, stronger, faster, more reliable, and higher tow capacity. but it takes more maintenance, i can send you a guide to the 6.0 maintenance and other trouble spots in a PM if you want me to. GL and the 6.0 is a great choice.
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Get the newer 6.0. We had and 03 6.0 and it was a P.O.S but my dads 05 and 06 have had absolutely no problems. He runs the Superchips programmer, cold air intake, and exhaust on them and tows his tractor trailer all the time with no problems whatsoever. The 7.3 is pretty much bullet proof, but it is significantly slower than the 6.0.
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the D-max is a well made engine. but w/ that engine and allison 1000 tranny, its like an $8500 option
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I've known a few diesel mechanics who've said the 7.3L is a bad a$$ motor for sure. I haven't heard alot about the newer engine, but the reliability issues with the 6.0L are certainly there. I would second the Chevy's with the Duramax/Allison combo; those are pretty rock solid too.
I don't know your location, but check out this website:
http://www.handpickedtrucks.com/
They specialize in selling used Ford, Chevy, and Dodge diesels. Most are highway driven from out west, brought back here to sell (the lot is in Va.). Anyway, they usually have a good selection of 7.3L F250's and some newer Chevy's as well. The mileage on most is between 70 - 100K, which most die hard diesel guys know is nothing on those motors. Good Luck and keep us posted.
I don't know your location, but check out this website:
http://www.handpickedtrucks.com/
They specialize in selling used Ford, Chevy, and Dodge diesels. Most are highway driven from out west, brought back here to sell (the lot is in Va.). Anyway, they usually have a good selection of 7.3L F250's and some newer Chevy's as well. The mileage on most is between 70 - 100K, which most die hard diesel guys know is nothing on those motors. Good Luck and keep us posted.
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I would, at all costs stay away from the 03 - 04 diesels that ford put out. my girlfriends family are all ford people (their last 11 trucks have been fords). her step father has the 03 6.0 turbo diesel. it's a nice truck when it works... but nothing is worth the frustration of driving from utah to las vegas with a turbo that **** the bed. it's been in the shop 15 or so times because of that turbo. Ford is not willing to help them out at all and not willing to buy back.
they just bought the a new chevy over the week end. i think it's the 2500HD with the turbo diesel/allison tranny. it's sad that after all these years of loyalty this is how ford repaid them, but the chevy IS sweet!!.
they just bought the a new chevy over the week end. i think it's the 2500HD with the turbo diesel/allison tranny. it's sad that after all these years of loyalty this is how ford repaid them, but the chevy IS sweet!!.
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Kind of odd, but I went the exact oppositemytitan said:
To be truthful my 03 PSD never let Me down . It was reliable, but then I might have been one of the lucky ones . What i got tired of was the expense of the maintenance . 14 qts. of oil at every oil change, an air filter that cost around $100.00 ,two fuel filters that needed to be changed if You got suspect fuel + crawling under the truck to drain the water seperator ,yada,yada, yada .I suggest You check www.thedieselstop.com before You decide.
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here's a question about diesel and nissan...(sorry if this jacks the thread, but it's an option to keep you in a titan for now)
has anyone tried to take the nissan powerplant and convert it to diesel? one of my dad's truck drivers did this to his old gm with success... it wasn't cheap, but it was more cost effective then a new motor... i wish i knew more about the technical aspects of it, but this was a solid 13 years ago...
has anyone tried to take the nissan powerplant and convert it to diesel? one of my dad's truck drivers did this to his old gm with success... it wasn't cheap, but it was more cost effective then a new motor... i wish i knew more about the technical aspects of it, but this was a solid 13 years ago...
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I like the Fords but with all the 6.0L engine troubles and already issues with the 6.4L I'd stay away from one.
If you want a mans diesel get the Dodge with the Cummins. If you want a diesel for your wife to drive get a Chevy/GMC.
Towing numbers don't mean jack. Take a look around you, look what truck the majority of hotshotters are driving and what they're pulling.
If you want a mans diesel get the Dodge with the Cummins. If you want a diesel for your wife to drive get a Chevy/GMC.
Towing numbers don't mean jack. Take a look around you, look what truck the majority of hotshotters are driving and what they're pulling.
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I've read a lot of posts on this thread. Certainly, on an individual basis, some have had good experiences and some have had bad experiences with the Ford 6.0L.mytitan said:
Here's a perspective that might help. Two sides of my family have large businesses with large fleets. One is in construction, the other in the shuttle van/cab/bus business.
In the construction business Ford Super Duties with the 6.0 have been less reliable (these are F-350s and 450s used for towing and welding rigs) than the older 7.3L. That said, the GMs, which we cycled out and replaced with Fords were totally inadequate...major brake problems and they were terrible in terms of overall durability and reliability. The 6.0s have problematic to the extent that we are waiting for the new engine from Ford before buying our next round of diesels.
In the shuttle van business, they actually had to stop buying the 6.0L Fords because they had such a failure rate that it effected their business. They actually reverted to gas powered vehicles, which use much more fuel and have a much lower useful life in high-mileage service until Ford fields a reliable replacement for the 6.0L.
The new Ford motor has good potential...hopefully, they corrected the problems that palgued the 6.0.
If I were you, I'd wait to see what the new Ford motor will offer. If you need a diesel now for towing, buy a nice, used 7.3 to bridge the gap for a year or so, then get a new one in the second production year.
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buy a 7.3 or a cummins..................if you like turbo lag
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There are still problems with the 2005 6.0's. VERY strong motor when they run, but too many problems (almost all my friends have Ford's with 6.0's, except the two that have done lemon law). As said before, there wasn't enough R&D on the motor, but before you buy the new motor, consider the 6.0 spent 4 yrs in development, the new 6.4 spent 2 yrs there. Maybe that's why they were all recalled cause exhaust was catching fire.
The 7.3 is indeed a great and reliable motor. The Cam Positioning Sensor is almost guaranteed to go out on it at some point, but no big deal unless you're towing when it goes out.
the best truck out of the big 3? Cummins motor with Allison tranny in a Ford body with GM interior, just my opinion, but that would be the Sh**!
The 7.3 is indeed a great and reliable motor. The Cam Positioning Sensor is almost guaranteed to go out on it at some point, but no big deal unless you're towing when it goes out.
the best truck out of the big 3? Cummins motor with Allison tranny in a Ford body with GM interior, just my opinion, but that would be the Sh**!
Ohhh.. OK Thats a nice looking truck and all , but Dude that sounds like something a Dodge owner would say no offence. I dont see a whole lot of Dodge trucks of any kind on any job sites all Fords and Chevys what does that tell you. I like Dodge as well, but statements like that with 0 substance to them is what ruins threads dont bash Chevy just cause you got a dodge let him look over the data and test drive and make an informed choise based on that.ptgarcia said:
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if you have a career where you are towing/hauling/driving a lot, i would get the DMAX. its a great motor, great tranny, but it is significantly more expensive than Dodge/Ford. If you want a luxury interior, i would choose Ford first, then Chevy, then Dodge. I love the Ford interior, i love the whistle you hear on the Powerstroke. i also like how tough the motor and tranny are of the Chevy. If you're on a budget, i would get the Dodge. but its not as nice as the others, its got bad turbo lag and the interior is just really, really plasticky and cheap. it doesnt look well thought out. i mean for christ's sake, why would you put the cupholders on the floor where the feet of the front row middle passenger is supposed to go, stupid if you ask me.
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