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I hear to many horror stories about Titans driveline/Diff problems. Should I tow?

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My 2005 Titan SE crew cab has 60,550 miles on it. I have heard and read that Titan has had major issues with there differentials and brakes! I know that my drive line warranty expires at 60,000 miles and the drive line is making some clunking noises when I make left turns. Should I be concerned about towing trailers? Or in that case be concerned about driving my truck at all? I don't want to end up having to spend money for a 3rd brake job, or $3500.00 on a differential.. I do not have the money and I need a truck to drive.
 
#2 ·
Trade it in for an F150 and when it gets 60,000 miles trade it in for a Ram and when it...

I'm at 120xxx miles and my original OEM radiator just busted around the seams...only major problem I've had since new other than normal maintenace. I don't tow but I've filled the bed with wood, sand, bricks, and other heavy stuff until the rear bumpstops were within milimeters from touching...:teeth: Not proud of that fact though..

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#3 ·
Maybe have the clunking checked out but worrying about what if's could kill a guy. I thought the brake problems were 04's only. Do you do city driving only. My past brand trucks were terrible with warping front rotors but have not heard bad things with the Titans.
 
#4 ·
I got an 05, had the warped rotors. But since it was new it's been towing a 5K lb landscape trailer every day, only comes unhitched for oil changes, and no problems whatsoever. As for the clunk when you turn, sounds like a front CV or U joint. My dodge rips thru them, Rams are notorious for that, but it was a clunk when turned while moving. Might also be a balljoint..
 
#5 ·
I have an original '04. I'm also the original owner. Went through the brake fix, axle leaks, CV popping off... I've towed a 30' camping trailer for years and go off roading... Like BBtruck said, trade her in for and F150 fast, then get the Dodge, then GMC or Chebby! Please tell me which truck brand haven't had any issues and I'll be right behind you including Toyota.
 
#6 ·
I found out that my differential is going out. I also found out that It will cost me $3,500 to replace it!

I was told by a differential specialist that all the dealership needs to do is replace a couple of $100.00 gears. However they only sell the diff as a complete unit at $3,500. The thing should last at last 200,000 miles! whats the deal! I have a good lawyer that wont cost me a penny. Here comes a class action suit.
 
#7 ·
I have over 90,000 miles on my truck and I tow an 8000lbs trailer all the time. Dealer replaced the axel seals about 80,000 under warranty and the brakes have not given me any problem after the change in 05.

sensign67@msn.com <-- sounds like a kid and I would not be surprised if he was just trolling. I also think that he would be better off in a F150 :rofl:
 
#11 ·
I am a 44 yr old man and I don't enjoy being stario typed! Not a kid thanks. Trolling? ya I like trolling to cook up that big fat fish!

Ya so any way I am happy your truck has lasted as long as it did.(if you are really telling the truth). Mine did not! And I am not going to pay the dealer $3,500 to fix a $200 job that I will more than likely end up doing my self mean while I am Still looking into that class action suit though.
 
#8 ·
Every vehicle has problems, no matter what brand you purchase. If your going to worry about what may happen at any given point of time, then my suggestion would be to not even come out of your house. Things are going to happen, it's just part of life, you could go to bed fine one day and wake up the next with complete paralysis. Don't fret over it, don't go over your max towing, load smartly, and enjoy! I've towed across the country with my 08 and a quarter of the way back, had no problems. Things develop, just roll with it, if your really worried about cost, talk to the dealership about the extended warranties or look into that us fidelis warranty they have. On my drive from Washington to Ohio I saw what looked like brand new f-350's on the side of the road towing big 5th wheel campers. Things are going to happen. Sorry if the beginning sounds mean, not meant to be that way at all!
 
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I have an original '04. I'm also the original owner. Went through the brake fix, axle leaks, CV popping off... I've towed a 30' camping trailer for years and go off roading... Like BBtruck said, trade her in for and F150 fast, then get the Dodge, then GMC or Chebby! Please tell me which truck brand haven't had any issues and I'll be right behind you including Toyota.
Ya no ****.
 
#10 ·
Check to see if Nissan offers an extended warranty for your truck. Got the timing chain replaced on my 1991 Nissan Maxima after the initial warranty expired. They recommended changing the timing chain at 60,000 miles and it didn't even need it. Titan's are really good trucks. By the way my Maxima now has 265,000 miles on it and is still running strong. The Maxima 3.0 liter V-6 is bullet proof. I'll post some photos later.
 
#14 ·
I blew the sh!t outta my rear-end in my 01 ext.cab 5.4L f-150 doing simple figure-8's in an empty parking lot when i was like 19 years old. not sayin i wasnt abusing it a little but damm at 75k miles it shoulda lasted longer than that. Ive had ford, 2 chevy's newer full-sized trucks and my Titan has surpassed them both 10-fold. I'll drive my Titan til the wheels or tranny or whatev falls off..but dont think that will happen cuz IMO Titan's are thee baddest A$$ truck to the $$ that comes outta your pocket.
 
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The weak part of our differentials are not the ring and pinion gears, its the spider gears inside the carrier. Also, the largest portion of the Titan community effected by differential failures are from the 04 and 05 model years. Supposedly, in 06 they upgraded the differentials slightly, same with the 07 Titans and the failure rate decreased quite a bit. Finally, in 08 they really beefed up the differential and for the most part eliminated the rear end failures. From the numbers I've seen the percentage of failed differentials is pretty small and there have been quite a few diffs that have been replaced that have not even failed. Every 04 I have seen in my area still had the original diff installed with the exception of one that I've seen recently.

Quite a few people eliminated the problem in their 04-07 differentials by replacing the weak carrier assembly with a very stout Detroit TruTrac (limited slip carrier), which runs around $1000 installed I believe. So that could be something to look into.

As to why Nissan only sells the entire diff assembly, I can only guess. I would think it would be easier and quicker to just replace the entire diff than it would be to train/pay for a diff specialist to open them up and replace the guts. Me, I'll keep on towing and using my truck for truck stuff and not worry about the rear end until something does happen.
 
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Honestly to add to this, I know I mentioned it, and so did a few others, check out extended warranties such as US Fidelis. There are commercials for them all the time, and they don't seem like too bad of a deal. And yes, I have an extended warranty on mine up through 100k, so i'm not too worried. If your aware that vehicles break down all the time, why do you come across to rude about it? As 'RobKar' said above, it's all in your wording. You started out sounding like a teenager, so you got responses geared towards a teen. But to state that your not, and then keep replying like one, really? I love this forum, there is a wealth of knowledge about our trucks out here, as well as lots of nissan techs that own the trucks too. If you ask the right way, you'll get what you want without all this other crap in the mix. Again, I would look into some warranty companies and just keep the titan, it's a beast that's hard to beat without upgrading to diesels.
 
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I apologize if I came across as a concerned teen. I just feel that the rear end of a truck should last longer than 60,000 miles. I bought the truck at 15,000 miles and loved it to the extent that it was babied and not abused.
I was acting in rage.
My 2007 Dodge Diesel 6.3 liter was a different emissions problem story. I heard the 5.9 liter were better.. Still thinking of going back to that truck after this mess is over with my Titan, Although I Love the titan:coolsmile.
 
#29 ·
As for why you can only get a complete diff assy, call Dana... They make it and supply repair parts..
 
#30 ·
Anyone upgraded their spider gears??

This discussion brings up an interesting point: has anyone upgraded the spider gears in their 04/05 rear end? If Nissan doesn't list the gears separately, maybe someone else (like DTS or some other drivetrain shop) does. Swapping spider gears is pretty easy.
 
#31 ·
It's a whole new carrier assy.
 
#34 ·
For what it's worth, I think it's horse sh*t to jump on this guy and call him a teenager or a troll or suggest he should ride a moped. Regardless of what you've driven in the past, it blows to have to sink $3500 into a part that in most comparable vehicles lasts well past 200k. Nissan should have recalled these axles and a class action suit is the legal, and in this case justifiable, remedy for when a manufacturer doesn't do the right thing. There's nothing frivolous about scores of owners having failures and having to shell out their hard earned money on a factory defect. I think the only reason more people aren't up in arms about this is (a) they are in warranty and it only costs them a day or so with out their truck and (b) they don't keep their truck long enough to have this happen to them - it's the next guys problem when warranty is up. Why Nissan had to screw with an axle that's had a fantastic track record is beyond me. This truck is a mean mother and I love it, but the axles (including the brakes) should be under my daughters Barbie stroller - if they'd just used a stock D44 they'd have been fine - God forbid they spend an extra couple hundred bucks on this 305 hp 5000lb beast and put a Dana 60 in it from the factory.

You guys were wrong to start a childish flame war with a guy who came looking for answers. If you need to get your aggression out, go start a bar fight or something - don't ruin the usefulness of this site with childish name calling.

I've got a call into DTS in Michigan to see what our options are for upgrading the weak links in these differentials. If it's just the spider gears and Nissan didn't reinvent their own version of them, these guys will have them and replacing them is cake.
 
#36 ·
For what it's worth, I think it's horse sh*t to jump on this guy and call him a teenager or a troll or suggest he should ride a moped.
I was not suggesting that he ride a moped. I asked about a scooter that he owns and rides.

If you ask for help that's one thing. I am well known for helping anyway I can. When you come in here and start the conversation by saying "CAN I TOW?" and then turn it around 10 min later and say I need a new differential and I am going to sue cause it was after my warranty... well that's completely different.

Most dealers, but not ALL will try to cover, under warranty, a part that only has an extra "500" miles over the warranty. I wont go into details here because its not necessary. <-- yes this means go look it up.
 
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my rear diff didn't even make it to 35k and the front went at 60k. you guys can sit here and **** on ford, chevy and doge but none of my domestic vehicles had problems so early on. these trucks are the biggest pieces of **** i have ever driven. my buddy had 50k on his and it would not even idle. ball joints gone at 25k, front drive shafts blown, it is completely unacceptable how these trucks are built. i traded in my 04 f-150 with 65k on it for this truck and every day i wish i had gone with somethign else. at 65k on the ford the only thing that went wrong with it was the rear window trim folded over and would not allow the window to shut. it took 150k on my 2 wheel drive s-10 that i used to beat the hell out to have the tranny blow. that was after i rocked the hell out of it in 3 feet of snow. my friends avalance has 150k on it and up untill last week the only problem he had was 2 window motors. he recently had to have the transfer case replaced. so sensign67 i agree with you completely, when i can afford to can this thing i'm going to a cummings, my mechanic see's less domestic trucks in his garage than he does nissans, including my girls piece of **** 05 altima.

i do however agree that all cars/trucks do have problems, but no one can sit here and tell me that it is okay to blow drivetrain parts like differentials under 100k. the other problems seems to be that even when they do fix it, it is still not right. take the exhaust manifolds, i hear guys are still having problems on the newer trucks. they just don't care, if they cared why would they try to get dodge to build them??? so you guys that were ****ting on dodge better think again, nissna obviously thought they could build a better truck.

rant over, i'm keeping mine for a few more years and lifting it. the power is great on these trucks and they stop on a dime, tow anything i can throw at them and are nasty in the snow and sand. i just don't see myself owning one again.
 
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Not cheap...I had to look back, it was from 4wheelparts(dot)com. They run about 800bucks, then you still need the compressor to operate it. Would be a fun toy though!
 
#51 ·
The only thing I didn't like about Dodge was the 94 drivetrain. I liked the new style they brought, the engine was a gas guzzler but still pretty sweet. My uncles each had one. They went through countless transmissions, rear ends and transfer cases. One was lifted, one wasn't. Both were 3/4 ton and had the snow plow prep package and both plowed a few lots with them. Nice truck, but that too wasn't worth the pain over time. I would like to have a diesel though, I think our trucks would be bada** with one under the hood!
 
#52 ·
Good grief 1-2% of Titans sold have had differential issues and it's the end of the freaking world!!! What just because most of the owners are on this board and the other 3 Titan forums and they make duplicate post that makes it look worse than it is. Sure it sucks but its far from an epidimic. I have co-worker that has a 2004 F-150 and a 2004 Expedition that his wife drives. Guess what?? the 150 has had 2 rear ends go out and the Expedition has lost 1 rear end. Same problem with both, the pinion bearing exploded. Guess what, it's a know problem and just like Nissan Ford won't admit it. Everyone lets run out and buy Dodge so we can have trany problems, oh the F 250's have trany problems too.

I think the axle seal leaks are a bigger issue than the differentials blowing up.

To the OP did you do the scheduled maint of the rear end, change the fluid at 30k miles??? Sucks about your diffy going out just as made your post. To answer one question, You can't just buy differential parts for the Titan because Nissan didn't contract with DANA to build such parts. I think that sucks. Also the axle in the Titan is a modified version of the Dana 40 or 44 (what ever) and off the shelf stuff won't work.

In my Family we have 3 Titans with a combined 200,000 plus miles and all 3 are used for sever towing duty. At any moment I would trust any of the 3 to tow across country.
 
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Good grief 1-2% of Titans sold have had differential issues and it's the end of the freaking world!!! What just because most of the owners are on this board and the other 3 Titan forums and they make duplicate post that makes it look worse than it is. Sure it sucks but its far from an epidimic.
Same can be said about bashing Stillen products...

Thread jack over.
 
#53 ·
my rear diff just went, so im putting in a ARB air lock. hope that works way better!
wit some king coilovers and rear piggy backs.
 
#55 ·
I love my '09 however my dealer put in a new rear end at 10K miles. I am trying to keep an open mind but...

My '07 Titan had no problems.
 
#56 ·
New front differential at 60600 miles. Sorry out of warranty. $1694.00 I suppose the rear will be next.