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I have run it in 3 different vehicles and all three showed gains at the track. I just can't stand stopping for fuel as often as it requires with E85. My 1983 Chevrolet van got about 8-10 mpg on E85 with the TPI setup for E85. My 2006 Ram was a Flex Fuel, same story with the MPG, and same with the Titan. I only have one place (Classic Clean Fuels a branch located on Classic Hummer's lot in Grapevine, TX) around me that sales it and its a pain in the butt to get to and get out of. But all three vehicles consistently ran 2-3 tenths better on E85. The TPI engine actually ran so cool with the E85 that the runners would start frosting on an 70*F day when pushed hard with a cool engine.
Wow, .2-.3 better track times. That's a huge gain just from the E85. We have E85 almost at every station here in the Midwest, so getting it is the easy part. I really hope some of the Titan forum tuning experts chime in on this thread. There must be a reason why this has been overlooked for so many years.
 
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I don't ever see any places selling it down here.
 
Regular gas in South FL is $3.60 a gallon and E85 it's $3.45 if you do the math it's not even 7% so it makes no sense to get it because your MPG will drop by 30%. You are better of going with 93gas


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Regular gas in South FL is $3.60 a gallon and E85 it's $3.45 if you do the math it's not even 7% so it makes no sense to get it because your MPG will drop by 30%. You are better of going with 93gas


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Understandable, but E85 has more performance benefits than than 93 octane gasoline. E85 is for those who want maximum performance at the track and not for full time use unless they want that edge at all times.

Where the heck is Deerslayer? I would think he would be interested in the thread since he has an FFV. We need more comments about this before I fill my tank with E85 for the first time...lol.
 
Regular gas in South FL is $3.60 a gallon and E85 it's $3.45 if you do the math it's not even 7% so it makes no sense to get it because your MPG will drop by 30%. You are better of going with 93gas


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We're talking about using it at the track only. We've established it's not cost beneficial to run it all the time.
 
Somebody should test it out @the track!
 
I would like to try this out, I have a FFV Titan and have run it with half a tank of gas still in it. I did not notice tat much difference, however I did not retune my BDGT tuner for the higher fuel octane.
With that said I should use the highest setting on my tuner, right?
 
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I would like to try this out, I have a FFV Titan and have run it with half a tank of gas still in it. I did not notice tat much difference, however I did not retune my BDGT tuner for the higher fuel octane.
With that said I should use the highest setting on my tuner, right?
That's a good question. Higher octane means more timing advance in most cases, but when I logged the 87 and 93 tune BDPP, the timing peaked at 35-36 degrees on both tunes. As far as I know, the handheld programmers and Uprev have never said it was ok to run their tunes using E85. We need to know if there is a problem running their tunes on E85. Running the stock tune has to be ok using E85 because that is what the FFV is designed to do.
 
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Somebody should test it out @the track!
The only place I've seen E85 is at a gas station off the Turnpike. I thought a few of the Titan tuners did some experimenting with race fuel and higher timing and saw no benefit...
 
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The only place I've seen E85 is at a gas station off the Turnpike. I thought a few of the Titan tuners did some experimenting with race fuel and higher timing and saw no benefit...
That's not very promising. I think I'll try it anyway.
 
That's a good question. Higher octane means more timing advance in most cases, but when I logged the 87 and 93 tune BDPP, the timing peaked at 35-36 degrees on both tunes. As far as I know, the handheld programmers and Uprev have never said it was ok to run their tunes using E85. We need to know if there is a problem running their tunes on E85. Running the stock tune has to be ok using E85 because that is what the FFV is designed to do.

I wonder if someone here can answer this? I would like to run it to see the powere difference but not sure what tune to use :huh:
 
OK I just text my tuner about this. I'm going to see if he can make me an E85 map. I can't believe this is 3 pages long and I just found it!! I'm going to google E85 and see if I can get some today and mix it with my 93 I'm running just as an octane booster and go run some 0-60's and see if theres any gains:) I'll report back later:) Now I need to see how much E85 mixed to so many gallons of 93 makes the octane level.
 
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OK I just text my tuner about this. I'm going to see if he can make me an E85 map. I can't believe this is 3 pages long and I just found it!! I'm going to google E85 and see if I can get some today and mix it with my 93 I'm running just as an octane booster and go run some 0-60's and see if theres any gains:) I'll report back later:) Now I need to see how much E85 mixed to so many gallons of 93 makes the octane level.
I was surprised you weren't making any comments on this thread. I know you have an FFV and can possibly shave another .1-.2 off the 1/4 just by switching fuels. Can you also ask him if us handheld FFV guys can switch without any repercussions?
 
I was surprised you weren't making any comments on this thread. I know you have an FFV and can possibly shave another .1-.2 off the 1/4 just by switching fuels. Can you also ask him if us handheld FFV guys can switch without any repercussions?
Sure will.......good find, thanks.
 
OK I just text my tuner about this. I'm going to see if he can make me an E85 map. I can't believe this is 3 pages long and I just found it!! I'm going to google E85 and see if I can get some today and mix it with my 93 I'm running just as an octane booster and go run some 0-60's and see if theres any gains:) I'll report back later:) Now I need to see how much E85 mixed to so many gallons of 93 makes the octane level.
Make sure to do the math on adjusting your fuel.

For every 15% ethanol content you add, adjust your afr's by 3% (add 3%)
 
I thought a few of the Titan tuners did some experimenting with race fuel and higher timing and saw no benefit...
Yes i remember! I was there @ the track that day too! It has been experimented with before running race fuel & higher timing, but the ECU didn't like it & would retard the timing advance. No faster MPH or lower ET from it... :(
 
That's a great article. Uprev posted that on FB.
 
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Yup I read that yesterday, I think for now I'll stay away from e85

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