Congrats on your new Titan. I must say i am brand loyal to Dodge, but when i was searching for a purchase i did test drive the Ford, chevy, and Nissan. That Nissan is one hell of a ride. If Nissan provided a longbed in that titan it would have been a hard decision, but since they dont. It was easy to choose dodge. Brand loyalty can change real fast in todays standards. Its mostly design that attracts people. Look at the new 2006 charger screw up they did. I may go get me a ford mustang. I just changed. LOL We all own the same truck. Dont get me wrong. I wish it was 1960 again, and the big three rivalry was real. That was some good days. I wish i was alive then. I watch alot of history channel. LOL

 

I was(is) a die hard Ford fan, but the Titan was a great value, I got more truck for the money then I could get at the "Big 3". All of the other trucks are haveing some problems, but not every single one, just like the many Titans out there. The Titans have a frt brake issue, period, not buts, or ifs. This forum is a place to share your problems, and solutions, so of course you will hear more stories here about problems. My experience with this truck compared to my many friends trucks ( all big 3) is other then the frt brakes, the Titan does NOT have any more problems then the other guys. :soap:

I love my truck... :bouncy:

 

I work with a couple of domestic owners that are loyal to a fault. They have cars and trucks that are really not so great, but love them. Not sure if it's that the vehicles are so good they ignore the problems, or they're too proud to admit they got screwed.

Car & Driver had a quote in one of their tests of the Pontiac G6 that I summed it up pretty well. It was something like "GM makes mediocre cars for people with mediocre expectations."

Tim

 

brand loyalty

My last truck was an '95 F150, it gave me 197k of relative trouble free srevice, but i bought an '05 Titan KC. The decision for me was easy. Ford dropped that technology along time ago and like Nissan was starting an all-new vehicle. My money is on Nissan to get it right before Ford. It didn't hurt that after a lot of testing it was obvious the Titan performed better, gave more for the dollar and the styling was superior. I even had a little old lady stop and comment on the truck as she was walking her dog.

 

I've owned them all, and i'm not "brand loyal" to any of them. I just do my research and try to purchase the best truck for my money.
As the Titan was a first year truck there wasn't a whole lot of research to be done on it. I just went with the dependability of previous Nissan's that I have owned. Also I just wanted somthing different and somthing that stood out from the crowd. I've not been dissapointed in this truck, it is living up to all of my expectations. It has almost 20K miles on it and hasn't been in the shop one time.

 

Welcome to the forum! I don’t agree with your assertion though.
Many here are not necessarily brand loyal to anything & this is precisely what has helped drive a new product. “Objectively” the value on paper was apparent from the onset & it didn’t matter who’s label was behind it. I’m sure a percentage of owners came over to the Nissan brand because the domestic name was a bad experience, while another percentage had a good experience with a prior Nissan product, but still I think the majority were sold on the product & didn’t matter who’s name was behind it.

Now about all those problems… perhaps looking @ other brand forums would give you the same impression. For me, If a product doesn’t perform as expected no matter who made it… it’s gone!; & so far I havn’t been disappointed.. so it stays.

 

My last three trucks were Dodge and I have been happy with their service. In Dec. 04 my accountant said that I needed to buy a new truck for tax reasons. After shopping around I setteled on a 2005 SE. I brought it home and THEN started viewing this forum to learn more about my new truck.

I am amazed a the loyalty and respect you have for this vehicle. You will fiercly defend your trucks no matter what problems they have: bad brakes, loose bolts, rattles, thing falling off and atrocious gas milage to name but a few.

The more I drive my SE I can see why. Great engine/driveline, good ergonomics and finish and an overall look that grows on you. However, that still does not explain the acceptance of engineering and manufacturing problems by most of you on this forum. These days most folks are offended and up in arms when a product does not deliver as promised. "$hit fire, call my lawyer".

But noooo, not you guys. You take it back to the dealer multiple times, call Nissan, buy aftermarket solutions, tell your spouse everything is "normal" and hug your Titan every night in the driveway.

Well, I'm with you. All of my other trucks have been attractive and well kept but none have garnered the attention my SE has. People go out of their way to comment on how good it looks or stare at it on the highway. It drives great and is truly a unique experience.

Now, if only we can keep the trolls and birds from crapping on our trucks.

Maksmith
Proud owner: Smoke SE King Cab.

Very nice first post! I've always wanted a full size truck, but told myself I would never own one...unless Honda or Nissan built it! Growing up my parents were die hard domestic car buyers...Dodge power wagon, Ford Granada, Mustang, Pinto; some Caddy's....needless to say we were always working on cars or having them worked on. Then one day, out of the blue my dad bought a 1979 Honda Accord...that thing lasted forever. Ever since all our cars have been domestic with the exception of full sized trucks. So now that Nissan has created the Titan it was a no brainer for me. I am one who has had a number of minor issues (except brakes and tranny) and still love this truck! So I cannot agree more with your post :brownsmil

 

My last three trucks were Dodge and I have been happy with their service. In Dec. 04 my accountant said that I needed to buy a new truck for tax reasons. After shopping around I setteled on a 2005 SE. I brought it home and THEN started viewing this forum to learn more about my new truck.

I am amazed a the loyalty and respect you have for this vehicle. You will fiercly defend your trucks no matter what problems they have: bad brakes, loose bolts, rattles, thing falling off and atrocious gas milage to name but a few.

The more I drive my SE I can see why. Great engine/driveline, good ergonomics and finish and an overall look that grows on you. However, that still does not explain the acceptance of engineering and manufacturing problems by most of you on this forum. These days most folks are offended and up in arms when a product does not deliver as promised. "$hit fire, call my lawyer".

But noooo, not you guys. You take it back to the dealer multiple times, call Nissan, buy aftermarket solutions, tell your spouse everything is "normal" and hug your Titan every night in the driveway.

Well, I'm with you. All of my other trucks have been attractive and well kept but none have garnered the attention my SE has. People go out of their way to comment on how good it looks or stare at it on the highway. It drives great and is truly a unique experience.

Now, if only we can keep the trolls and birds from crapping on our trucks.

Maksmith
Proud owner: Smoke SE King Cab.

Welcome. If you had a good accountant he would have bought you the truck. :hahano: I have had problems with all my new cars and trucks from Ford, Dodge, and now Nissan. I new getting into a first year model that I would have some issues and to me the ones that I have are minor. I expect to own my truck for 10 years or more, so I am mainly concerned with the power train, which has been rock solid. Knock on wood. I also have to say I have a tolerance for things negative, and tend to not complain about things too much. Perhaps the Titan attracts a specific personality type and thats the reason we take a little more crap than most.

 

Basically, what everybody else has said provides a great summary for me. I fall into the categories of having had a great experience with a previous Nissan ('00 Maxima), a bad experience with a Big 3 ('96 Explorer needed a new tranny at 41k miles no warranty cov.), I am definitely loyal to Nissan, and I am also not a very negative person that complains a lot. I prefer to accept this first year truck and the small nuances that may or may not be issues.

I like the way people just look at me in my Titan as I drive by and the proven performance that it has over the Big 3. I have never received so many compliments from random strangers at gas stations, various parking lots, and friends that I don't see very often. :king:

 

Basically, what everybody else has said provides a great summary for me. I fall into the categories of having had a great experience with a previous Nissan ('00 Maxima), a bad experience with a Big 3 ('96 Explorer needed a new tranny at 41k miles no warranty cov.), I am definitely loyal to Nissan, and I am also not a very negative person that complains a lot. I prefer to accept this first year truck and the small nuances that may or may not be issues.

I like the way people just look at me in my Titan as I drive by and the proven performance that it has over the Big 3. I have never received so many compliments from random strangers at gas stations, various parking lots, and friends that I don't see very often. :king:

I know isn't it crazy

 

The last new " Domestic " auto I owned was a pile of steaming cow dung, with no sepect. That was in 1988. I said then, I will never again. Since that time I have owned Mazda, Toy, Nissan 5x, Kia 2x. Yes, I still have an 87 Dodge 100 SW 2wd, don't drive it much, and the only " GOOD FORD " 1968 F300 Shorty dual w/300Ci HD, the last of the great fords. Loyal to a brand, no, just pissed off :boxing: that American auto manufacturing is third rate at best. :futwice:
Now, the wife drives Kia and loves it. NEVER A PROBLEM 32,000, AND I MEAN NEVER. Me, well if you have to ask ......................................Yes problems and all, I just may die with my TITAN or one of its siblings :rockon

My two pennys!

 

I've owned more Nissans than I care to count and have had no problems, to speak of, with any of them. That's the reason I stick with them. I also know people who claim the same while owning other makes, even domestic brands. I think it does go back to loyalty. A Chevy owner will defend their vehicle to the death usually. Ever see a "Ford vs Chevy" forum? It gets brutal..like you said something about their mothers!
Bottom line in my mind is, if you take good enough care of any vehicle, it should last. If a Chevy, Ford, Dodge..etc owner ends up having to deal with a few more problems or a few more trips to the dealer, and they're die-hard fans of their nameplate, they'll continue to defend it to the death.
You also have the crowd who'll refuse to own anything Japanese regardless of where its' built, claiming the $$$ goes back to japan anyhow. It's a shallow train of thought to me but these people take it to heart. They don't care that they'll have to put more $$$ into it. They don't care that their particular model was actually built in Cananda or Mexico. It's an AMERICAN company to them..that's all that counts.
Now I make a comfortable living. But I'll be darned if I'm going throw my hard earned money away on something I feel is of inferior quality, and is proven in study after study to be of such, just to make some lame, yesteryear point about "BUY AMERICAN", or "MADE IN THE USA". Everyones opinion differs. This is just mine. In the end it's you that has to like what you're driving, nobody else.

 

In my opinion, when you buy Nissan you are buying American. These motors are made in Tennessee and the truck is built in Mississippi. Before I owned Titan I bought Nissan trucks, partly because they're built in my home state of Tennessee (hey, you gotta support your own) and partly because they're good quality.

As for where the company originated, who cares? The big 3 use just as many foreign made parts in their vehicles as the foreign companies use American made parts, and many of the big 3 vehicles are made in Mexico or Canada.

Also, on a side note, the Japanese auto industry is proof positive that protectionism can work. The reason we've got plants all over the US making Toyotas, Nissans, Hondas is because it became cheaper to make the vehicle here than pay the associated costs with making it in Japan and bringing it here, paying shipping, tariffs, etc. If you level the playing field with tariffs, and the product is superior, it will still outperform a domestic product. Then, maybe our jobs would be staying here instead of going to the Walmart Republic of China.

 

Domestic Titan

I have an 05 LE CC ,I bought it a week ago, and before I bought the truck Test drove the F-150,
and I have to admit the Truck drove very smooth and the interior was top notch. The Tundra drove even better , but the interior was awful. The Ram 1500 Hemi sport was jumpy, the Drivetrain was very responsive, the interior
was bland the brakes were so-so.The Chevy silverado I got in the cab and could not get past the interior it was a bad nightmare.

Then I drove the "Beast" I was in love, I have never looked back. Then I read
an article that says that the Titan was designed, engineered, and assembled
in the good old USA. The Titan may have a japanese name plate , but the heart, and soul of this truck is American through and through. :cheers:
:haveredfl

 

I've owned more Nissans than I care to count and have had no problems, to speak of, with any of them. That's the reason I stick with them. I also know people who claim the same while owning other makes, even domestic brands. I think it does go back to loyalty. A Chevy owner will defend their vehicle to the death usually. Ever see a "Ford vs Chevy" forum? It gets brutal..like you said something about their mothers!
Bottom line in my mind is, if you take good enough care of any vehicle, it should last. If a Chevy, Ford, Dodge..etc owner ends up having to deal with a few more problems or a few more trips to the dealer, and they're die-hard fans of their nameplate, they'll continue to defend it to the death.
You also have the crowd who'll refuse to own anything Japanese regardless of where its' built, claiming the $$$ goes back to japan anyhow. It's a shallow train of thought to me but these people take it to heart. They don't care that they'll have to put more $$$ into it. They don't care that their particular model was actually built in Cananda or Mexico. It's an AMERICAN company to them..that's all that counts.
Now I make a comfortable living. But I'll be darned if I'm going throw my hard earned money away on something I feel is of inferior quality, and is proven in study after study to be of such, just to make some lame, yesteryear point about "BUY AMERICAN", or "MADE IN THE USA". Everyones opinion differs. This is just mine. In the end it's you that has to like what you're driving, nobody else.

Here, here...I share pretty much the same opinion as you. You couldn't have said it any better. :cheers:

 

I'm only brand Loyal to Harley Davidson.( It's in my soul)

 

Peoples brand loyalty is very facinating and with cars there seems to be no getting away from it. Weather it's one of the big 3 or a particular german make,japanese make there are groups of people who are fiercely loyal. There also is a tendecy to be prejudjust about cars just based on where the maker resides as with japanese car fans who have steriotypical views of american cars and vs versa. These people go out of their way to point out falts of the automaker or makers in question while blindly ignoring any of their good points of accomplishments. In some ways peoples emotions where cars are concerned are just as great as in a political disussion. Even in the comments here you can see the hatred towards other companies often based on little or no fact.

 

Most of the time it's from being brainwashed while growing up.

You see the very same thing in very young children who are racially prejudice. It's not something your born with, it has to be learned.
So someone has to be doing the teaching.

 

Look at the new 2006 charger screw up they did.

I totally agree with you there. I was so pumped about them making the charger again. I looks just like the magnum with a trunk instead of a hatch back and bigger fender flares. Just awful. :huh: :crying: :huh: