Come on, no one knows?

 

Come on, no one knows?

Just call them and ask, otherwise get the total chaos arms

 

I had the prototype on for about a month or so, just had the production version installed on thursday. Awesome!!! Check out the pics on their site. On sale now. Good luck.

 

How much travel where you getting?

 

How hard is the install on these? I read that the Total Chaos ones were kind of a B**** to install? Are these any easier. I just changed jobs, moved to an apt. and had to leave most of my tools 250 miles across the state.

Will these get rid of the "clunking" in the front end when I go across speed bumps, etc..? They will also allow for greater travel in the upward/downard direction too, right? But hat will still be limited by my stock shocks with the 6" spacer though.

I assume they'll work with my ProComp spindles, correct?

NCD $475

NCD Exclusive Features:
* 3/4” FK Heim joints (not bushings)
* 1” Heavy-Duty Flex Joints (superior to Uniball)
* Dual Bent A-Arms (increased droop travel)
* Fully Tig Welded (not high production mig)
* Fully Adjustable Camber/Castor
Other Great Features:
1.25” Chromoly tubing
F911 Grade 8 hardware
CNC spindle adaptors; machined in-house
CNC machined hi-misalignment spacers
Zirk grease fittings
Powder coated
100% Bolt on, no drilling or welding
Eliminates stock ball joint

TC $549
(from PRG site)Total Chaos upper control arms are made from 1.25" chromoly tubing and use a 1" uniball in place of the weak stock ball joint. The inner mounts are greasable urethane pivots with zirc fittings. They use a special tapered adapter that positively locates the uniball in the stock ball joint hole. No drilling is required and it can easily go back to using stock parts. These arms can be used in numerous configurations: 1) They can be used with our leveling kit to allow full travel of the stock shock and increase wheel travel. . 2) They are also a great upgrade to Rancho/CST kits to allow full amount of down travel without interference between the a-arm and the coil bucket and provide the most travel from the stock shock or coilover upgrade.It will also add increased height to your current lift kit. For both 2 or 4 wheel drive.


Seems like the NCD is a better deal?

 

I've been searching for the clunking sound too...so the stock UCA's are the culprit?

 

I've been searching for the clunking sound too...so the stock UCA's are the culprit?

Hmmm..I dont think so. Aquaholic had a clunking sound from his CST too. But we thought it to be from the uni-ball upper arm?

 

Ive got a clunking that ive been looking for aswell and I only have dr coilovers

 

I called and talked with Gary at NCD. He didn't think it was the upper arms. I'm going to order the NCD UCA's anyway and see if the clunking goes away. I want to have more down travel without bottoming out against the CST bump stop. This will eliminate a ball joint as well.

 

Hmmm..I dont think so. Aquaholic had a clunking sound from his CST too. But we thought it to be from the uni-ball upper arm?

Did he ever find the clunking? I have the Radflo's now, my Fox's were junk. I have been on a 2 year search to eliminate the 'clunking' noise. Only slow over speed bumps or uneven pavement. Hauling *** no problem or noise.

 

I want to have more down travel without bottoming out against the CST bump stop.

More droop will have zero effect on hitting the bumpstop in compression.

 

Which one offer the most droop? NCD or TC

 

I couldn't be more impressed with the uppers!! Get 'em. Why spend more for the TC arms when the quote on NCD's site says it all....
"Maybe not the first, by far the Best!"
Ncd's have more allowable droop, due to the dual bent arms.

 

More droop will have zero effect on hitting the bumpstop in compression.

It will when I cut off the CST bump stop thats welded to the coil bucket. Due to the fact that the stock arms will be replaced with the NCD uppers they will now clear the coil bucket. With the CST kit I only have 1.5 inches inches of down travel before the bottom of the stock upper arms bottom out on the coil bucket bump stop...not good.

It's not compression I'm worried about. I have no issues with that.

 

You must have the name wrong then because bumpstops are for compression.

 

KM,

These are the little rubber stops that have the ears welded to the outside of the coil bucket that are a part of CST's 4x4 kit to prevent the upper arms from hitting the coil bucket (down travel). I would like to install the NCD upper arms that are designed not to hit the coil bucket like my stock ones will if these stops we not installed. These stops are not intended for compression but rather limit down travel.

HH

 

KM,

These are the little rubber stops that have the ears welded to the outside of the coil bucket that are a part of CST's 4x4 kit to prevent the upper arms from hitting the coil bucket (down travel). I would like to install the NCD upper arms that are designed not to hit the coil bucket like my stock ones will if these stops we not installed. These stops are not intended for compression but rather limit down travel.

HH

those are droop stops....and they're a pain w/ the CST arms

 

Ok my fault....droop, bump, what ever it's still a stop on the coil bucket. Unless I go with the NCD arms I suppose it's a necessary evil and not much else can be done.

 

anothe thing you could do is have the coilbucket cut off, and get some custom shock hoops made.

 

Any chance PRG will comment on these?

 

Any chance PRG will comment on these?

Not his style at all, be won't bash other people's products, and of course he's not going to promote what isn't his. Just another reason everyone including myself buys from him. I'd like to hear from someone who has these who isn't affliated with NCD.

 

I found out Greg is going to have his own upper arms availible soon, so I'm going to wait for his now. :clap:

 

Not his style at all, be won't bash other people's products, and of course he's not going to promote what isn't his. Just another reason everyone including myself buys from him. I'd like to hear from someone who has these who isn't affliated with NCD.

I wasn't asking him to bash anything...just give an honest opinion...

 

Not his style at all, be won't bash other people's products, and of course he's not going to promote what isn't his. Just another reason everyone including myself buys from him. I'd like to hear from someone who has these who isn't affliated with NCD.

Two things. First of all Everything Greg promotes is someone else's product. What you mean to say is that Greg wont promote what he does't stock. He promotes Radflo, Total Chaos, CST.... None of that is his!
Second, I am not affiliated with NCD in any other way than most of you are affiliated with Greg, loyal customers. I can give you an honest opinion on the uppers because they are superior to the competition and that's a fact. You don't need Greg to tell you that.
I spoke with Gary at NCD aboout Greg and what he does and he had nothing but good things to say about him. Competition or not, more companies and more product lines benefit the industry.

 

that is true. He earned his customers not by bashing otherpeople's products, but by providing clear and honest answers about what products/upgrades to add. he tailors each of his installs according to what suits each individual customers.

about the NCD uppers, i haven't heard anything about them, other thanwhat VTECLESS has said, but by no means does that mean theyre a bad product.

But i'm not sure if this has been said, but exactly how is the NCD UCA superior to the TC UCA's? This is meant not as a question to putyou on the spot, but to help many (including myself) decide between NCD and TC arms.