Thinking of buying a new 2012 Titan Sv or Pro 4X

fins · Sep 26, 2012

mekirk2 said:
You got pictures of those rims up close? What size are they?

20 x 8

mekirk2 · Sep 27, 2012

Fins - check your PMs please

fins · Sep 27, 2012

mekirk2 said:
Fins - check your PMs please

PM answered

Castor Troy · Sep 27, 2012

jdt1003 said:
Good to know. I like to keep things stock unless it is going to help fuel mileage. Have you tried any tuners or CAI?

I just got my brand new Tit few weeks ago and I already installed a BDGT along with MXP intake. If you don't thrash and trash your truck, you should have a long lasting vehicle with decent MPGs. Granted you need to drive normal in order to stay away from the fuel pumps. I highly recommend (just like 99.9% of the peeps here) to get it tuned and uncork it, it just glides down the road now. I wouldn't have any other way, no need for an Eco-Boost for this guy here:redblob".

nebage · Oct 4, 2012

Im sure this may be to late, as you probably bought by now, but personally! go with the TITAN!
You will not regret it.!!
I made a decision to change to a Silverado 5.3 and hated it! The differences are huge! and the fuel economy I found to be total BS! I was averaging around 1MPG difference between the two, granted thats about 25-30 miles more per tank but was not worth the headaches the Chev gave me vs the Titan.

Firstly my old Titian 2010 CC SE 4x4 50K miles was worth more on trade in value than my 'new' Silverado CC 4x4 with 5K miles. That says something right there!

Secondly, the Titan has changed very little since 2004, and still are selling trucks today (granted not like before but Im sure that will change with new engine lineups soon-Cummins coming onboard). Its still looks great and better than the newer trucks.

It holds it value pretty well to comparables.

Personally the Titan is better built to, the quality feels far better in the Titan than Chev, more solid!

The Chev 5.3 is a gutless wonder! nice to drive, but really lack powers, and towing capabilities may say they are comparable but honestly, they are not! Not unless your looking at an HD! Titan packs a punch in the towing and compares more the GM's lighter HD trucks.
I only say this as I tried it, and quickly went back to Titan. The Chev could not handle the hills!
I posted a thread yesterday about it.

jdt1003 · Oct 5, 2012

nebage said:
Im sure this may be to late, as you probably bought by now, but personally! go with the TITAN!
You will not regret it.!!
I made a decision to change to a Silverado 5.3 and hated it! The differences are huge! and the fuel economy I found to be total BS! I was averaging around 1MPG difference between the two, granted thats about 25-30 miles more per tank but was not worth the headaches the Chev gave me vs the Titan.

Firstly my old Titian 2010 CC SE 4x4 50K miles was worth more on trade in value than my 'new' Silverado CC 4x4 with 5K miles. That says something right there!

Secondly, the Titan has changed very little since 2004, and still are selling trucks today (granted not like before but Im sure that will change with new engine lineups soon-Cummins coming onboard). Its still looks great and better than the newer trucks.

It holds it value pretty well to comparables.

Personally the Titan is better built to, the quality feels far better in the Titan than Chev, more solid!

The Chev 5.3 is a gutless wonder! nice to drive, but really lack powers, and towing capabilities may say they are comparable but honestly, they are not! Not unless your looking at an HD! Titan packs a punch in the towing and compares more the GM's lighter HD trucks.
I only say this as I tried it, and quickly went back to Titan. The Chev could not handle the hills!
I posted a thread yesterday about it.

I have had my Titan 10 days now, and do not regret it. But still like to see reviews comparing the Titan to the big three. I personally feel that I got a whole lot more truck for the money!!!

dHOFFs · Oct 9, 2012

starting to concern me. most of you in this thread claim 12-14 mpg city in your 2011-2012 sv or pro-4x. i have a 2012 sv sport 4x4, around 5k miles, and my trip has steadily tracked 10-11 mpg. wtf. i had a 2008 SE 2wd before and it tracked a 14mpg average, i figured the difference was in the weight. my 4wd is switched off, have never even used it yet. still can't figure what the issue might be. any ideas?

06HemiRam · Oct 9, 2012

dHOFFs said:
starting to concern me. most of you in this thread claim 12-14 mpg city in your 2011-2012 sv or pro-4x. i have a 2012 sv sport 4x4, around 5k miles, and my trip has steadily tracked 10-11 mpg. wtf. i had a 2008 SE 2wd before and it tracked a 14mpg average, i figured the difference was in the weight. my 4wd is switched off, have never even used it yet. still can't figure what the issue might be. any ideas?

My average for the past 7,000+ miles is in my signature line. I drive 60+ miles per day, not totally city and not totally highway since I drive right through downtown dallas rushhour traffic.

gregus73 · Oct 9, 2012

nebage said:
Im sure this may be to late, as you probably bought by now, but personally! go with the TITAN!
You will not regret it.!!
I made a decision to change to a Silverado 5.3 and hated it! The differences are huge! and the fuel economy I found to be total BS! I was averaging around 1MPG difference between the two, granted thats about 25-30 miles more per tank but was not worth the headaches the Chev gave me vs the Titan.

Firstly my old Titian 2010 CC SE 4x4 50K miles was worth more on trade in value than my 'new' Silverado CC 4x4 with 5K miles. That says something right there!

Secondly, the Titan has changed very little since 2004, and still are selling trucks today (granted not like before but Im sure that will change with new engine lineups soon-Cummins coming onboard). Its still looks great and better than the newer trucks.

It holds it value pretty well to comparables.

Personally the Titan is better built to, the quality feels far better in the Titan than Chev, more solid!

The Chev 5.3 is a gutless wonder! nice to drive, but really lack powers, and towing capabilities may say they are comparable but honestly, they are not! Not unless your looking at an HD! Titan packs a punch in the towing and compares more the GM's lighter HD trucks.
I only say this as I tried it, and quickly went back to Titan. The Chev could not handle the hills!
I posted a thread yesterday about it.

I agree, as for Trucks...the Titan has some pretty good power/pep to it.
The Titan is the only full size truck that I have ever driven/owned.

The other Trucks that I have owned are:
2001 Tacoma 4x4 Xtra cab SR5 3.4L 6cyl.
1994 Ranger 4x4 std cab 3.0L 6cyl.
1991 Toyota 4x4 std cab 2.4L 4cyl.

Scottysize · Oct 9, 2012

06HemiRam said:
My average for the past 7,000+ miles is in my signature line. I drive 60+ miles per day, not totally city and not totally highway since I drive right through downtown dallas rushhour traffic.

My new truck average is in my siggy. My 2010LE 4X4 which I drove in Dallas traffic to and from work was 13.7 MPG. In the end I was getting closure to 15.

jdt1003 · Oct 10, 2012

dHOFFs said:
starting to concern me. most of you in this thread claim 12-14 mpg city in your 2011-2012 sv or pro-4x. i have a 2012 sv sport 4x4, around 5k miles, and my trip has steadily tracked 10-11 mpg. wtf. i had a 2008 SE 2wd before and it tracked a 14mpg average, i figured the difference was in the weight. my 4wd is switched off, have never even used it yet. still can't figure what the issue might be. any ideas?

I have already put 2000 miles on my new Texas Titan SL, the first couple of tanks were averaging 14-16. It is now averaging between 15-17. My first oil change will be with synthetic at 3K, that should help a little more, I will also be putting a Tonno cover on it soon, that has proven to help on other trucks that I have had (Chevy 1500). The Texas Titan sits up a little higher, and has 20" tires not the 18's that are on the SV, I think that that does not help very much. I drive very conservatively, have not had it over 3500 RPM, I also live in the country, so there is not a lot of stop and go for me. I will post here after I get the Tonno, and let everyone know how much it helps, though it will probably be a while.

rbt · Oct 10, 2012

dHOFFs said:
starting to concern me. most of you in this thread claim 12-14 mpg city in your 2011-2012 sv or pro-4x. i have a 2012 sv sport 4x4, around 5k miles, and my trip has steadily tracked 10-11 mpg. wtf. i had a 2008 SE 2wd before and it tracked a 14mpg average, i figured the difference was in the weight. my 4wd is switched off, have never even used it yet. still can't figure what the issue might be. any ideas?

I averaged 15 on my 07SE 4x4 mixed, 13 on my 11Pro4x(lifted 35.5" tires) mixed, and 13 so far on my 12Pro4x with 34.5" tires/level/all city driving but only 500 miles on it

nebage · Oct 10, 2012

Doesn't quiet sounds right on your mpg, Im only at about 3000 miles and steadily averaging around 13-14 mpg. I have a 2012 SL 4x4 BT CC. I do baby it frequently to try (attempt) to save on gas, especially at close to $100 per fill.
I think I'm going to start with the Fuelly and see where it really averages out to, cant always trust what that computer says! Remember! the computer tells you your gas is out, and have no miles left but your still driving! so isnt all that accurate.
I think driving style contributes a lot to mpg, but on another note I also run only 91 or higher octane! never anything less. not sure on others as havent seen any mention. Its totally worth the extra few dollars. maybe an extra$5 ?
I'll start a new thread today for fuelly miles, might be interesting!

dHOFFs said:
starting to concern me. most of you in this thread claim 12-14 mpg city in your 2011-2012 sv or pro-4x. i have a 2012 sv sport 4x4, around 5k miles, and my trip has steadily tracked 10-11 mpg. wtf. i had a 2008 SE 2wd before and it tracked a 14mpg average, i figured the difference was in the weight. my 4wd is switched off, have never even used it yet. still can't figure what the issue might be. any ideas?

Tights24 · Oct 11, 2012

starting to concern me. most of you in this thread claim 12-14 mpg city in your 2011-2012 sv or pro-4x. i have a 2012 sv sport 4x4, around 5k miles, and my trip has steadily tracked 10-11 mpg. wtf. i had a 2008 SE 2wd before and it tracked a 14mpg average, i figured the difference was in the weight. my 4wd is switched off, have never even used it yet. still can't figure what the issue might be. any ideas?

1. start ignoring your trip meter. Have you logged and calculated your actual mileage at all?
2. Do you have big tow gears?
3. Where do you typically drive, city, highway?
4. Do you have any mods on your truck? Lift, non stock wheels/tires, exhaust, CAI, tuner?

With this info we may be able to help and/or figure out what's going on.

dubyam · Oct 11, 2012

I'll agree with Tights24. You need to calculate your actual mileage from setting the trip odometer when you fill up, and then doing the math the next time you fill up. I've found my mpg meter on the dash to be pretty close to accurate most all the time. But that's just with this truck. With my dodge it was way off. And with my wife's Expedition, not as bad as the dodge but still off. Most of these monitors are not accurate.

As for the 4wd, it's "engaged" at the front axle all the time, but the transfer case is disengaged. So you're always spinning the front axle internals, which is most of the resistance of the 4wd system. You should not see significant changes in mpg between 2hi and 4hi.

The biggest mpg drain for my T is repeated acceleration. If you can avoid stop signs and traffic that is standstill, and avoid accelerating any more than you have to - like accelerating and braking and accelerating and braking in traffic - you'll do much better. I'm able to consistently get about 14.5 around town, and 17 on the highway, running nearly 80mph. I have trouble believing anyone is getting much better than that in similar settings, as I'm pretty good at wringing out the very last bit of efficiency. I've heard folks say on this board they're getting 21mpg on the highway and 16 around town, but I'm calling BS on that. I'll believe it when I am in the truck from one fill up to the next and see the >500mi roll off the odo between. Until then, that sort of stuff resides with Elvis and Bigfoot for me.

One last thing to consider is that lugging these trucks, in my experience, is a mileage drain. When you accelerate, go ahead and push it up to 2000-2500rpm and get on up to speed. Then throttle back and let inertia work for you. I actually increased my mpg by about .5-1mpg by shifting my driving technique to this sort of acceleration, versus keeping it around 1800-2000 all the time for getting up to speed.

06HemiRam · Oct 12, 2012

dubyam said:
I'll agree with Tights24. You need to calculate your actual mileage from setting the trip odometer when you fill up, and then doing the math the next time you fill up. I've found my mpg meter on the dash to be pretty close to accurate most all the time. But that's just with this truck. With my dodge it was way off. And with my wife's Expedition, not as bad as the dodge but still off. Most of these monitors are not accurate.

As for the 4wd, it's "engaged" at the front axle all the time, but the transfer case is disengaged. So you're always spinning the front axle internals, which is most of the resistance of the 4wd system. You should not see significant changes in mpg between 2hi and 4hi.

The biggest mpg drain for my T is repeated acceleration. If you can avoid stop signs and traffic that is standstill, and avoid accelerating any more than you have to - like accelerating and braking and accelerating and braking in traffic - you'll do much better. I'm able to consistently get about 14.5 around town, and 17 on the highway, running nearly 80mph. I have trouble believing anyone is getting much better than that in similar settings, as I'm pretty good at wringing out the very last bit of efficiency. I've heard folks say on this board they're getting 21mpg on the highway and 16 around town, but I'm calling BS on that. I'll believe it when I am in the truck from one fill up to the next and see the >500mi roll off the odo between. Until then, that sort of stuff resides with Elvis and Bigfoot for me.

One last thing to consider is that lugging these trucks, in my experience, is a mileage drain. When you accelerate, go ahead and push it up to 2000-2500rpm and get on up to speed. Then throttle back and let inertia work for you. I actually increased my mpg by about .5-1mpg by shifting my driving technique to this sort of acceleration, versus keeping it around 1800-2000 all the time for getting up to speed.

I hold mine in 4th until around 65 mph before I upshift to 5th. I cruise 80-85 mph on the highway everywhere when possible. I also agree push it up to 2,000-3,000 rpm, especially under 45 mph when the torque converter is unlocked, around 45 mph ease up a little and let the converter lockup but hold the truck out of OD until 65 mph.

My last trip on the open road running 80-85 mph from Fort Worth, TX to San Antonio Texas gave 18.2 mpg. I have seen better than 20 mph if I can hold 75 mph for the duration of the trip.

06HemiRam · Oct 12, 2012

jdt1003 said:
I have already put 2000 miles on my new Texas Titan SL, the first couple of tanks were averaging 14-16. It is now averaging between 15-17. My first oil change will be with synthetic at 3K, that should help a little more, I will also be putting a Tonno cover on it soon, that has proven to help on other trucks that I have had (Chevy 1500). The Texas Titan sits up a little higher, and has 20" tires not the 18's that are on the SV, I think that that does not help very much. I drive very conservatively, have not had it over 3500 RPM, I also live in the country, so there is not a lot of stop and go for me. I will post here after I get the Tonno, and let everyone know how much it helps, though it will probably be a while.

Except not all SV Titans have 18" wheels. My Sport package had 20" rims with 33" tall tires STOCK and still has the same tires with Nismo 20" rims now.

The MPG in my signature is running WOT to 6,000 rpm MANY times a day. I counted one day on a datalog and in my typical morning commute of 33 miles, I am on the floorboard 8-10 times. Fast paced Dallas traffic, if you aren't in it, you are getting run over.

truckasaurus · Oct 16, 2012

I love my Pro-4x. I think i paid around $32k for it back in 2009 when they were having some pretty serious rebates. Mine's loaded with everything but the technology package (Nav, Sunroof, DVD). I woulda bought it with the package if they had one, even though i have zero need for the DVD and only a marginal interest in the sunroof, but the nav is almost worth the $2k by itself... or at least would have been back then.

Mileage is abysmal, i'm getting between 12-15 in mixed city driving. Love the truck though, the Pro4 is a really nice setup, with the body matching bumpers and other goodies. You'll get more mileage out of a newer ford or chevy, but not as much grunt. The Titan was designed before the advent of expensive gasoline, so it's still stuck in the era of the sub $2 gallon of gas. When they (finally) redesign, look for the engine to be more efficient and (probably) less powerful.

Stingray · Oct 16, 2012

:huh:Boy, I dunno if I'd do that. I've owned an'05 LE since new, and if I knew then what I know now. Let me start out by stating I'm 64, a retired master tech, and I don't beat my truck at all. Nonetheless I've multiple problems with durability, all expensive. Fortunately, I can still do my own work so I saved a lot, but you probably wouldn't. I liked the styling, and because I no longer needed a "work truck" I liked the soft ride. But I wouldn't do it again. One last thing. I change my oil and filter every 3500 miles, and as I said, I don't beat the truck, but the oil pressure is really starting to drop, and I'm pricing out "rods, and main bearings, and a new oil pump at 125k miles. My last F150, a real "work truck, as I owned my own business and used it often , it had 250k miles when I sold it, and I never did anything major to the truck.
If you buy a Titan good luk.

dezthumper · Oct 16, 2012

I've been tracking my mpg since new.

2005 KC 2WD 2.94 final ratio.

I measure and calc at each fill-up.

Least, non-towing: 12.1 mpg
Least towing a 6500 lb trailer, w/many elevation changes: 6.9 mpg, locking up the torque convertor by running it in 4th or even 3rd, when climbing some longer steeper hills.

Most: non towing, little elevation changes, cruise set @ 65mph w/tail wind: 24.6 mpg.

AVG MPG @ 135k mi: 16.1mpg. I run almost 85% highway.

Was all stock until 20k mi:
CAI (cold air intake - K&N) did not increase gas mileage measurably. It did not give seat-of-the-pants power increases. However, the intake sound is more aggressive and the filter is much much more efficient and less expensive, long term, than swapping out paper filters.

My buddy bought a new 11 5.3 Chevy 2WD, optioned up decently.

GM runs AFM, or active fuel management. He's besting my mpg between 1 and 2 mpg. That really means little unless we drive the exact same and do the exact same hwy/city ratio.

The GM seems a bit more refined and quiet than mine but for almost $40k OTD. He admitted to losing about $10k driving a brand new truck off the lot and had a bit of buyer's remorse with a new car payment north of $500/mo. He said for the $10k he lost in that moment he drove it off the lot, he could have added Dynamat to his 08 T to make it a little more quiet and maybe a more sophisticated stereo system to refine it a bit more AND R&R cloth for leather by Katzkin to really polish it off - yet... still have $5k-$6k left over and no car payments. I told him, what's done is done and to enjoy the ride!

Thinking of buying a new 2012 Titan Sv or Pro 4X

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nebage

jdt1003

dHOFFs

06HemiRam

gregus73

Scottysize

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dubyam

06HemiRam

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