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jham576 · Dec 29, 2012

But... I've been browsing leveling/lift threads and can't seem to find a solid answer because the discussion usually ends up trailing off into other people complimenting each others' trucks rather than discussing the post lol
But anyways, I want to get more height out of my truck but I do not want to buy 35s because my 33s have less than 5k miles on em and I love em.
I already have a 2" leveling kit. Now, could I just get new UCAs and put bilsteins on to get more height, and if so how much height could I get realistically.
And if there are any actual lift kits that aren't too high to make 33s look goofy, please let me know.
Sorry, I know there are numerous threads about this so please don't yell at me

I just want a solid, definitive answer.
Thanks!

honda250xtitan · Dec 29, 2012

33's look good (if its a 325/60 series) up to 6" lift. You can add uppers and do bilsteins yes. You will get either .5, 1.5, or whatever the top perch gives you (a rough ride).

jham576 · Dec 29, 2012

So I can put bilsteins on the middle perch plus my 2" leveling kit and the ucas?
If that wont' cause any problems, I'm just gonna go that route. Would the RC UCAs clear enough?

jtrick · Dec 29, 2012

RC's will clear for every day driving (speed bumps, etc.) Offroading you may run into cbc but you can grind the lip off and gain you extra space.

I have the same setup. You will need new extended endlinks for sure. Without them your swaybar will flip. You could remove the swaybar but the endlinks are cheap. RC and PRG both sell them.

You may also need camber bolts. You won't know until you get the alignment. I didn't, but I guess my truck is a freak. Most do after doing any more than the 2" spacer. I am riding 3.5" lift up front with bilsteins and 2" spacer and 1" blocks in the back.

jham576 · Dec 29, 2012

jtrick said:
RC's will clear for every day driving (speed bumps, etc.) Offroading you may run into cbc but you can grind the lip off and gain you extra space.

I have the same setup. You will need new extended endlinks for sure. Without them your swaybar will flip. You could remove the swaybar but the endlinks are cheap. RC and PRG both sell them.

You may also need camber bolts. You won't know until you get the alignment. I didn't, but I guess my truck is a freak. Most do after doing any more than the 2" spacer. I am riding 3.5" lift up front with bilsteins and 2" spacer and 1" blocks in the back.

What setting were you using on the bilsteins? And yea, I'd probably put a 1" block in the back too. I don't do much offroading and the offroading that I do isn't very extreme, mostly just to get to campsites and what not. Nothing crazy.

jtrick · Dec 29, 2012

I put them on middle perch for 1.5" of lift. With the 2" spacer and blocks in the back I am exactly level.

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Scan999 · Dec 29, 2012

You are probably looking at Bilsteins, spacer, and new UCA's for a max height. IMO and aggressive 33" tire is perfect for that setup. I like the off road look and a lot of space in the wheel well. If you are looking for anymore height you should just go with a 6" lift and a set of 35's.

jham576 · Dec 29, 2012

Yea, the more I think about it, the more i like the bilstein ideas. Hows the ride quality compared to stock? Middle setting, that is.

osiris10012 · Dec 29, 2012

I would suggest getting a set of dk uca's with the 2" spacer and billys on the middle perch. The reason I suggest the dk's is because they will give you a lot more clearance than the rc uca's. If you never go offroading you will probably get by with the rc uca's. From with I have read they 5100's on the middle perch is a night and day difference compared to the stock struts. You'll have a much better ride quality.

jham576 · Dec 29, 2012

Dang, those aren't very gentle on the wallet haha

jtrick · Dec 29, 2012

With my setup and grinding off some of the cb lip I no longer have cbc.

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Scan999 · Dec 29, 2012

jham576 said:
Yea, the more I think about it, the more i like the bilstein ideas. Hows the ride quality compared to stock? Middle setting, that is.

I think the truck rides much better with 5100's and middle setting. It feels like a truck. A little stiff, no sponge or bounce. I don't have CBC and my swaybar has plenty of room and doesn't bind. I think some people contribute poor ride quality to the 5100's because they have too much lift in the front. You can only go so high before you get negative results.

*SocalTitan* · Dec 29, 2012

I still run 33's and have 5.5" of front lift, I can adjust the prload on my coilovers and go even higher if I want but not going any higher witout getting 35's but with just a 2" level nd Bilstein 5100's on middle perch you will get just about 3.5" up front and it will look great.
I used to run the same thing on my T (2" level, and Bilstein 5100's mid perch as well as a 1" rear block) it looked great with 33's and the ride was much better than stock. I never put aftermarket UCA's on so I did experience slight CBC on pot holes and speed bumps but only like 3 or 4 times out of like 5 months with that setup.
As Jtrick said you'll want some PRG endlinks, as well as bump stops and adjustable cam bolts (If your T was built after 06)

erdvm1 · Dec 29, 2012

Do I need bump stops with
2011 pro 4x
Billsteins on middle perch and
1.5 PRG spacer up front
I also have PRG UCA
All to be installed this Friday.

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jham576 · Dec 29, 2012

*SocalTitan* said:
I still run 33's and have 5.5" of front lift, I can adjust the prload on my coilovers and go even higher if I want but not going any higher witout getting 35's but with just a 2" level nd Bilstein 5100's on middle perch you will get just about 3.5" up front and it will look great.
I used to run the same thing on my T (2" level, and Bilstein 5100's mid perch as well as a 1" rear block) it looked great with 33's and the ride was much better than stock. I never put aftermarket UCA's on so I did experience slight CBC on pot holes and speed bumps but only like 3 or 4 times out of like 5 months with that setup.
As Jtrick said you'll want some PRG endlinks, as well as bump stops and adjustable cam bolts (If your T was built after 06)

Ooops! Its an 05 SE 4x4. I guess I should have mentioned that haha

*SocalTitan* · Dec 29, 2012

erdvm1 said:
Do I need bump stops with
2011 pro 4x
Billsteins on middle perch and
1.5 PRG spacer up front
I also have PRG UCA
All to be installed this Friday.

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I'd recommend getting them, they are only $10 on ebay or at most of your local auto parts stores. They look like this and come in red or black, they are made by Energy Suspension...

Also just a heads up on a Pro-4 some guys have had CBC (coil bucket contact) running the Bils and 1.5" leveling kit without grinding a little on the coil bucket or running after market UCA's

jham576 said:
Ooops! Its an 05 SE 4x4. I guess I should have mentioned that haha

LOL yeah that helps a little. Good thing is your T came with adjustable cam bolts so that's one less thing to deal with.

jham576 · Dec 29, 2012

*SocalTitan* said:
I'd recommend getting them, they are only $10 on ebay or at most of your local auto parts stores. They look like this and come in red or black, they are made by Energy Suspension...

Also just a heads up on a Pro-4 some guys have had CBC (coil bucket contact) running the Bils and 1.5" leveling kit without grinding a little on the coil bucket or running after market UCA's

LOL yeah that helps a little. Good thing is your T came with adjustable cam bolts so that's one less thing to deal with.

I'm glad I made this post haha you all have been extremely helpful and I think I've finally made up my mind.

*SocalTitan* · Dec 29, 2012

jham576 said:
I'm glad I made this post haha you all have been extremely helpful and I think I've finally made up my mind.

Be sure to post before and after pics

jham576 · Dec 29, 2012

*SocalTitan* said:
Be sure to post before and after pics

I guess I should post some pics of my baby, huh? lol
I'll get some up within the week after I get her all cleaned up and it stops freaking snowing! lol Probably next Saturday will be the first that I can. I work every other day up until that point.

Miktitan · Dec 29, 2012

This has helped me alot thanks!!

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