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#41 ·
Perhaps that is the logic Nissan is using in the brake judder issue as well.

The same diver having multiple issues with brake judder, uh uh must be the drivers.

I dunno. But according to common logic, if some thing is broke it is and stays that way unless it is fixed correctly.

Thats why some trucks are returning to the dealer again and again with the same issue. :haveredfl

As OB1 stated Trust.....

It is the important factor rather than dissing any one with issues. When the thread started it was as if no diffs failed now we have established that many diffs are going!

Oh ye of minimal faith.
 
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#44 ·
I have a right hand corner around here where I can reproduce the SLIP anytime I want. I start to make the turn, it is a right turn onto a slight upward left sloped road. If I try to stay in the right lane, I can almost always get the SLIP activation and light. I lose power, the green light on the left side of the dash flashes a few times and then after letting up on the gas, everything catches up with itself and off we go. I probably use this intersection 4-5 times a week and at least 3 times a week I slip.

I have the 2004 CC LE with OR, BT, 4x4 and VDC is, as usual, always engaged. After 45K miles on this truck, you would think I would have a problem with the rear end if this was the cause.
 
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#45 ·
Sammy Sandbag said:
Yeah, and I've been stuck in a wet grass field spinning and it never kicked in. Everywhere I've read says it's standard on LE 2WDs, but I'm wondering.
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What model/year truck do you have? if it's an 04 4X2 LE...you don't have the rear ABLS. Oddly enough, for 2004, it was standard on all 4X4 models and the only 4X2 to have it was the SE with the OR package.
 
#46 ·
The rearend failures are a corporate plot and all Bush's fault. Oh yeah, so is global warming/cooling(pick one), high fuel prices, homelessness and/or low unemployment, the good economy or bad, tooth decay, cancer, ect, ect ect.
 
#47 ·
HudsonValleyTitan said:
What model/year truck do you have? if it's an 04 4X2 LE...you don't have the rear ABLS. Oddly enough, for 2004, it was standard on all 4X4 models and the only 4X2 to have it was the SE with the OR package.
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Okay, well that explains it. But I was looking through old articles and specs, and none of them really spelled it out. Some would say it was standard on all LE's, and option on 2WD SE and XE's with the trac package, and standard on 4x4. But then others would say optional on SE and standard on 4x4. I couldn't understand why it would be an option on the SE and not on the LE, so I went with the more logical choice. That's really odd, but in a way I'm glad I don't have it.

Guess I need to put some more work into the Titan History thread. :rolleyes:
 
#48 ·
Doesn't sound right to me either. I have VDC as do many armadas. I would think our rears aren't designed to handle as much abuse as a solid rear axel, but we don't have diff problems. Sanford is 30 minutes from me. :haveredfl
 
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Sammy Sandbag said:
Okay, well that explains it. But I was looking through old articles and specs, and none of them really spelled it out. Some would say it was standard on all LE's, and option on 2WD SE and XE's with the trac package, and standard on 4x4. But then others would say optional on SE and standard on 4x4. I couldn't understand why it would be an option on the SE and not on the LE, so I went with the more logical choice. That's really odd, but in a way I'm glad I don't have it.

Guess I need to put some more work into the Titan History thread. :rolleyes:
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I know. A lot of Nissan literature has wrong information...mine could even be wrong but, judging by what you've said, I don't think so. If you were spinning on wet grass, you'd surely know if you had the ABLS. The SLIP light flashes and you can feel the power going to the other side and gripping. It's very noticable when it kicks in. :cheers:
 
#50 ·
HudsonValleyTitan said:
I know. A lot of Nissan literature has wrong information...mine could even be wrong but, judging by what you've said, I don't think so. If you were spinning on wet grass, you'd surely know if you had the ABLS. The SLIP light flashes and you can feel the power going to the other side and gripping. It's very noticable when it kicks in. :cheers:
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Well I always thought I didn't have it, then while compiling the info for the Titan history thread, I ran across several sources that said it was standard. But if I do have it, then it's broke. :rolleyes:
 
#51 ·
ccsi1@swbell.net said:
The day before yesterday after my 4th. rearend cratered... after only 1800 miles, (39,000 mile total on an 04) no towing, 4x4 off road le... with big tow pkg... I got mad and did a little research to find out why on my own today...
if anyone that has had a rearend fail on an 04, 05 or 06. we need to visit via e-mail to check out my speculations and when confirmed will anounce reason. direct e-mail ccsi1@swbell.net and let's correspond... especially if yours cratered and the wheels came off...

I am boiling mad...I'm from texas... stranded in florida til nissan ships in another one... or they take this one back ...
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If you really had four go out, do you think that since hardly anyone else has had even one go out, that perhaps something about your truck is misaligned and causing this?

Or maybe the Techs at your dealership are no good, or don't like you?

For you to have four bad diffs., while most of us that run the Titan to the limits have not even one go out, is mathematically improbable. :futwice: Unless it is something with your Titan, not a differential design flaw.

And your VDC claim is funny when the others are claiming it is on the 4x4 Off-road Pkg. w/Locker, which never had the VDC.
 
#52 ·
guys ive said it multiple times and i actually seen the inside of one of my friends 3rd rearend and its the locker its not strong enough and causing total rearend destruction when it lets go. i wish i had my camera. my dealer replaced four in his truck before nissan bought it back. i have had 2 different titans and 22's on both without the locker and ive tried to break something but not yet! well see how she handles the stillen!
 
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#53 ·
got_titan said:
guys ive said it multiple times and i actually seen the inside of one of my friends 3rd rearend and its the locker its not strong enough and causing total rearend destruction when it lets go. i wish i had my camera. my dealer replaced four in his truck before nissan bought it back. i have had 2 different titans and 22's on both without the locker and ive tried to break something but not yet! well see how she handles the stillen!
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How come I have 23,000 miles on mine and have used the locker many times, as have thousands of Off-road pkg. owners. Four times means the guy's truck is screwed up, or he abuses it. Get f'n real. :futwice: :upsidedow :upsidedow :upsidedow :upsidedow :upsidedow :upsidedow
 
#54 ·
I have a question, it seems that people who have a the rear go have it happen more than once. A few install issues aside, it stands to reason that the driver is doing something wrong. To clarify, I am not saying that the truck's rear has no problems or that every one that has a rear go is doing something wrong, but the occurance of multiple diffs going from the same owners points to driver issue. It just seems odd.
 
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MO Titan said:
I have a question, it seems that people who have a the rear go have it happen more than once. A few install issues aside, it stands to reason that the driver is doing something wrong. To clarify, I am not saying that the truck's rear has no problems or that every one that has a rear go is doing something wrong, but the occurance of multiple diffs going from the same owners points to driver issue. It just seems odd.
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Here's one previous poster's explanation for this, don't mind the Star Wars references:

http://www.titantalk.com/forums/showpost.php?p=392611&postcount=41
 
#56 ·
Yeah, I saw that, but it seems that the problem occurs soon into the trucks life. I know the break issue happened all over the place, early and late a few even never. The rears going always seems to happen early, but never seems to happen late. There are so many people without one problem with very high miles. Again, not blaming it on the drivers persay, but it does seem point that way. The whole thing is just odd.
 
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#57 ·
:teethmast And again, I think its the rear, as there have been 0 failures as far as I know on the Armadas, which don't have that rear. Maybe poor steel quality? Loads of different reasons. The best way to figure it out would be to collect data from which year, model, options, etc. seem to have the most problems. Seems like a lot of '04s and repeat customers instead of a bunch of owners having a single failure.
 
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#58 ·
I have an '04 KC LE 4x4 w/o Big Tow or OR package. When I go offroading or the roads are wet, I can instantly tell when my BLSD kicks in. I start slipping and it will correct me. However, SLIP does not show up on the intrument cluster. Instead, BLSD will start flashing. It is just above where SLIP would be. It's my understanding that SLIP will only turn on if you have VDC. By the way, I have put my truck through a lot of mud, grass, rocks, etc and have yet have a problem or any sounds of a problem. I have almost 10k miles on her since I bought it in June of this year. I don't know if this info will help, but there it is.
 
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dareed02 said:
I have an '04 KC LE 4x4 w/o Big Tow or OR package. When I go offroading or the roads are wet, I can instantly tell when my BLSD kicks in. I start slipping and it will correct me. However, SLIP does not show up on the intrument cluster. Instead, BLSD will start flashing. It is just above where SLIP would be. It's my understanding that SLIP will only turn on if you have VDC. By the way, I have put my truck through a lot of mud, grass, rocks, etc and have yet have a problem or any sounds of a problem. I have almost 10k miles on her since I bought it in June of this year. I don't know if this info will help, but there it is.
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:huh:

Okay, I just checked, and there's no listing in the manual for BLSD and the SLIP indicator is for any truck equipped with ABLS.
 
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