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The 2015 GTR has 550 hp, 470 lb/ft of torque. You know Nissan would lower the hp number in favor of more torque....Just like other manufacturers have done with their V8's.

A VR38DETT would be badazz in a 1500 Titan.

Will it happen? I doubt it.
While the VR38TT has some respectable torque numbers (!), doesn't mean that engine can suddenly be dropped into a 3-ton 4x4 on 33s and be expected to tow 9000lbs without tearing itself apart... but yeah, not like Nissan is going to do it anyways :)
 
While the VR38TT has some respectable torque numbers (!), doesn't mean that engine can suddenly be dropped into a 3-ton 4x4 on 33s and be expected to tow 9000lbs without tearing itself apart... but yeah, not like Nissan is going to do it anyways :)
I thought I said they would lower the hp in favor of more torque, like a taller intake and some tuning.
 
i will take a gas motor . diesel service cost is to high. turbos injectors pumps filters . no thanks. worked on diesels for years chevy ford and dodge . I like the simplicity of the 5.6 . easy to keep performing well and doesnt break the bank.
 
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No diesel here either. Give me a more fuel efficient version of the current engine please.
 
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i will take a gas motor . diesel service cost is to high. turbos injectors pumps filters . no thanks. worked on diesels for years chevy ford and dodge . I like the simplicity of the 5.6 . easy to keep performing well and doesnt break the bank.
It sure does help to hear that from someone with experience in the servicing side of things. Simple is always good :D
 
So there is no advantage to a diesel…. good to know!
 
Diesels have there upsides too but they do cost significantly more to maintain. If u gotta tow big you kind off have no choice.
Plenty advantages to diesels but for all of us did guys I prefer not to have bloody knuckles all time. If u love doing maintenance then by one u will be very pleased. Lol
 
Yea diesels have a few advantages to gas. Pulling power is main one. Also mileage under load. You get better mileage then you would with a gasser. Also longevity. They last forever. Especially if you maintain em. But that's the downside. They require ALOT of maintenance and are expensive to do so. That's the kicker.
 
Yea diesels have a few advantages to gas. Pulling power is main one. Also mileage under load. You get better mileage then you would with a gasser. Also longevity. They last forever. Especially if you maintain em. But that's the downside. They require ALOT of maintenance and are expensive to do so. That's the kicker.
The Exhaust systems are the weak link and Nissan will have major growing pains, the Big3 still are. Longevity wise the Block might last for a long time but the Fuel & Exhaust systems are not lasting, high dollar repairs. On top of it 1 tank of so so Diesel will not be covered and will turn into a insurance claim.
 
I want the diesel. I tow big and want the better millage. I have been hearing numbers like 26MPG <--- that could be just talk.

I believe that that new engin put together well, but really only time will tell. I do expect some issues but not as many as you would think.

 
I almost always look past the reported MPG and just wait to see what real world mileage is like, since that's what really reflects what we would be getting, nothing like real world stats .
I go with the 10-15% less rule myself. It usually works out that way.
 
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I have heard that as well about diesels requiring more maint as well as costing more. If I had a big trailer or a heavy load to pull on a regular basis then perhaps I would go with the diesel but for an everyday type truck it's overkill.
 
I have heard that as well about diesels requiring more maint as well as costing more. If I had a big trailer or a heavy load to pull on a regular basis then perhaps I would go with the diesel but for an everyday type truck it's overkill.
But apparently maintenance intervals are not as frequent with diesels, so that might help to some extent.
 
I think any Titan loyalist who decides to get the diesel will be severely disappointed in short time. You guys think bad radiators, cracking manifolds and poor axle seals are bad, wait until you get a load of the cost to own of a MODERN diesel, a diesel saddled with overkill emission systems and expensive service parts. I am not sure of the Cummins line, AFAIK the old I6 has been somewhat reliable, but the Duramax and Ford diesels are crap from a reliability stand point. And the new Cummins V8 has not been time tested yet, odds are it will be troublesome like the other 2 I mentioned.

We have the Ford 6.7's at work. They have intermittent power delivery, constant warranty issues regarding emissions and are getting a bad reputation for blowing the engines whilst still under warranty. And on the Fords, the cab has to come off to get at the engine, which is a big deal on our trucks because all of the added systems need to be disconnected when the cab is pulled (CB, inverter, auxillary lighting, etc) and that stuff was not installed with cab removal in mind.

As for the Duramax, they have FI issues that have affected my friends, such as very expensive injector failures just after warranty.

I say, if you are open to leasing and need an interesting HD truck, go ahead and get the XD. Let Nissan/Cummins pay to fix it. I would not ever own a modern diesel of any brand after warranty has expired.

I predict the diesel XD will be more troublesome by a wide margin than the Gen 1 5.6 ever was.

I think that HD truck customers who have already experienced modern diesel ownership from the Big 3 may find the XD as an acceptable ownership experience. Titan loyalists thinking their prayers have been answered will be disappointed.
 
Plus being an engine coming from cummins, more faith can be put into the diesel powerplant. If it was something Nissan themselves developed 'from scratch' then... there would be reason for raised concern.

Sitting on the sidelines to gauge how initial batches go is always a good thing to do for the patient potential owners out there.
 
If I had a bunch of money and didn't care about maintenance costs I would get one. But my buddy has a fairly new f250 and he is on his 3rd engine AND turbos... given he has 225k on a 2008. His transmission just had to be rebuilt. the diesel tuners run twice as much as gas, they hold more than twice the oil, etc. What I'm saying is that mods and maintenance run high. His was so bad off on stuff breaking he had to bring in a "lemon lawyer" to threaten the dealership for one of the motors. My other buddy had had a new ram 3500 and in the 7 months he has had it, literally 5 have been in the shop. The biggest problem is all of the environmental restrictions that get slapped on them. Before he got his DPF delete (think that's what its called) he truck sounded like a fat boy chasing a donut up hill breathing out of a straw.

On the other hand, if a company is buying it for you for work, I would jump all over it.
 
I think there is a bit of dooms day diesel talk in this thread. There are a few outliers in the diesel world that have had high failure rates (LB7 Duramax, 6.0 Ford) but it doesn't mean they ALL fail. A mechanic will tell you they will, just like a cop will tell you the city he works in is full of criminals. Cummins B series is without doubt the best diesel engine out there, so Cummins adds considerable diesel cred to the new XD right out of the box. I think owning/operating any 2015+ vehicle out of warranty carries a financial risk. Cars and trucks are getting more complex, modular, and sophisticated every day due to safety and efficiency demands. But, vehicles are also getting more reliable, so it seems to work out. Agree with all that suggest sitting out the first model year is smart.
 
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