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54warrior said:
Don't count your chicken's before they're hatched!! There's even more bolts on the front to contend with. You just never know for sure what you'll run into. I'm dealing with a lower shock bolt right now that is rusted fast inside the shock eye. Have been spraying for weeks with PB, hoping to break it loose so I can install my SAW c/o's without much hassle.
Options: New bolt.... torch.... :flamed:
 
54warrior said:
No shock by itself is going to add any amount of lift.
Not entirely accurrate.

Bilstein adjustable 5100's can raise the front of the truck. I would love for someone to try these out & post some results. Greg w/ PRG wrote on another thread that this can be detrimental to ride quality.

I would also like to hear from someone who has tried the Rancho Quick Lift shocks for the front, and the RS9000XL's in the rear.
 
07cajuntitan said:
Not entirely accurrate.
Will you please explain???
 
54warrior said:
Will you please explain???
Installing the Bilstein adjustable 5100 shocks with factory coil (nothing else) can lift the front of the truck depending on where you set the snap ring.

Installing Rancho Quick Lift shocks with factory coil (nothing else) will lift the front of the truck.

I'm not a mechanic, so that's about as good an explanation I can give. (With the exception of providing the manufacturer info below.)
 

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07cajuntitan said:
Installing the Bilstein adjustable 5100 shocks with factory coil (nothing else) can lift the front of the truck depending on where you set the snap ring.

Installing Rancho Quick Lift shocks with factory coil (nothing else) will lift the front of the truck.

I'm not a mechanic, so that's about as good an explanation I can give. (With the exception of providing the manufacturer info below.)
Yes, all of what you said is true, however, it's not the shock that's creating the lift. For example, on the Bilstein Shocks, using the factory coil, you can adjust where the snap ring is located, which will change the preload on the spring itself. Nothing inside the shock (valving, etc.) has been altered and hasn't added any lift. The preload on the spring has changed-that is what caused the lift.

Same is true for the Rancho Quick Lift shocks. They have adjusted how the spring mounts onto their shock, which in turn changed the preload on the spring and lifted the truck.

I'm not certain of what adjustments are offered on those QuickLift shocks, likely just compression and or rebound adjustments. Those can be used to control how "slow" or "fast" the shock compresses and rebounds. These adjustments do affect the shock itself, but in no way increase/decrease the height of the truck. They control how the shock 'reacts'.
 
Well I got the blistins installed last night. Set the snap ring for a 1" lift, and it did it. Looks good with another inch up front. But as for the ride, it still rides rough. They just feel so stiff, and it dosent give any when I hit bumps. Maybe I will have to go with SAWS or something high quality like that to get a better ride.
 
husker1206 said:
Well I got the blistins installed last night. Set the snap ring for a 1" lift, and it did it. Looks good with another inch up front. But as for the ride, it still rides rough. They just feel so stiff, and it dosent give any when I hit bumps. Maybe I will have to go with SAWS or something high quality like that to get a better ride.
Thank you SOOOO much for giving us a report of how these work. Is the 1" of lift (where you have it set) the highest setting, or the lowest setting?
 
husker1206 said:
Well I got the blistins installed last night. Set the snap ring for a 1" lift, and it did it. Looks good with another inch up front. But as for the ride, it still rides rough. They just feel so stiff, and it dosent give any when I hit bumps. Maybe I will have to go with SAWS or something high quality like that to get a better ride.
I wonder how they would ride with zero lift? :confused: If you are preloading that spring more, it only makes sense it is going to feel stiffer.
 
mjw357 said:
I wonder how they would ride with zero lift? :confused: If you are preloading that spring more, it only makes sense it is going to feel stiffer.

Ya I understand that. I have mine set in the middle which is 1". You can go one more up and make it 2".
 
The Bilsteins that I had on my '97 Mountaineer were stiffer than stock, but I liked it better than the really soft, no shock absorbtion, factory ride. These were OEM replacements, not any special offroad lift version or anything like that. I'm sure that they would do the same with set at no lift height, just not as bad since the springs will be a factory spec load.
 
jljue said:
The Bilsteins that I had on my '97 Mountaineer were stiffer than stock, but I liked it better than the really soft, no shock absorbtion, factory ride. These were OEM replacements, not any special offroad lift version or anything like that. I'm sure that they would do the same with set at no lift height, just not as bad since the springs will be a factory spec load.
I'm not sure. The 5100's are off-road race shocks. They're probably going to be stiff regardless of spring pre-load. Now that I have heard a report on these being very stiff...I don't know what to do. The QuickLifts are adjustable for ride quality (not height), but the only report I have on them says they only give 1" of lift. I'll have to measure the fender height of my front wheels vs. back wheels and see how close to level that gets me. There's always the spacer route, but when you add up the cost of spacers and new shocks the $$$ gets up there pretty quick.
 
nissan72 said:
Hey Husker1206......I would love to see some pictures if you can post them.
Are the fronts zinc plated(silver)?
Ya they are.. Ill try and get some pics tomorrow.
 
Well you cant set them on the 1" mark with a leveling kit!!
I looked under this morning to see what was squeaking and I saw that my A arm and coil bucket are hitting. ((I think thats what you call them)) Proably why my ride is soo ****ty and stiff. So im going to set the shock to normal and then ill let yall know how it rides.
 
I got it set to normal now and it rides great with the new shocks. I wonder if I buy some after market Upper Control Arms, they would stick out enough so they wouldnt hit the coil bucket?? Anybody have any ideas??
 
husker1206 said:
I got it set to normal now and it rides great with the new shocks. I wonder if I buy some after market Upper Control Arms, they would stick out enough so they wouldnt hit the coil bucket?? Anybody have any ideas??
So without pre-loading the springs the shocks ride as good as stock? That should work great with levelling spacers.
 
07cajuntitan said:
So without pre-loading the springs the shocks ride as good as stock? That should work great with levelling spacers.
I dont think it was becuase the spring was loaded to much, its because my UCA was hitting. But ya now they ride great. You could put the shock at 1" with a leveling kit, which would give you 3" in the front, if you would buy a new UCA that would clear the coil bucket.
 
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