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Truetrac in Titan - Review

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I had a Truetrac diff from Detroit Locker installed a couple days ago. The Truetrac is a helical gear type limited slip differential.

Here's a link to the original thread on the Truetrac.

Here's a link to the Truetrac page on Detroit's website.

I've driven vehicles with all kinds of limited slips and lockers. Mechanical and viscous LSD's, automatic and ARB lockers. The Truetrac is far and wide the most amazing limited slip I've ever experienced. After 2 days with this diff I'm absolutely in love with it. It's as smooth and invisible as an open diff when putting around, and I almost can't tell the difference between it and a locker when I push the go-fast pedal.

I removed the OEM electronic locking rear diff (an open diff) to install the Truetrac. I can tell you this - if you're on the fence about getting the TrueTrac because you don't want to give up your OEM locker... get the Truetrac. It has all the traction of the locker when locked, all the street manners and ease of use/low maintenance of an open diff, and makes for great around-town driving.

I went to my favorite off-camber uphill dirt hill today to get one rear tire up in the air. Normally, with an open rear diff, as you unload one tire it'll start spinning (as it loses traction). With the Truetrac, I couldn't tell that the unloaded tire was off the ground. I had my big tow mirrors pointed down at my rear tires (which stick out nicely from the fenders), and I couldn't see a speed difference between the two. It felt just like a locker.

A couple other tests I've done -

Accelerate in a straight line on damp pavement, leaves two black marks.

Accelerate hard around a corner - kicks out the back end, feels close to how a locker feels around a corner. Very easy to steer with the throttle.

Accelerate hard with one tire on dry pavement (maximum traction) and one tire on packed dirt/moss/sand (minimum traction, off the road). I've done this test probably 30 times, at all different throttle levels. I can tell if the tire in dirt spins by the look of the ground afterwards (torn up, lightly disturbed, undisturbed, etc.), and I can tell if the on-road tire spins by the barking sound. This Truetrac is so close to a locker, it's unbelievable. I can't spin the off-road tire at all without hearing the on-road tire spin.

I can take off at partial throttle, and just take off - neither side spins. At a certain power level, the rear end goes from neither side spinning to both sides spinning. On an open diff, the tire with minimum traction (the off-road tire) would spin like crazy and the on-road tire would just sit.

I haven't had my SLIP light come on since the installation of the Truetrac. The SLIP light illuminates when the ABS system senses a difference in rotation speed between the left and right rear wheels and activates ABLS.

It's definite - I'm not going back to the locker.
 
#3 ·
Austin, You have to tell me what shop did this for you! I HAVE to get this done, I can't take the onewheel peels any longer.
 
#4 ·
U mean no more one tire fire! AWESOME!
 
#5 ·
travisreed said:
Austin, You have to tell me what shop did this for you! I HAVE to get this done, I can't take the onewheel peels any longer.
Travis -

Bayview 4x4 did the install. I'd originally called Randy's Ring & Pinion to do it (they're huge, and they're over on your side of the water), but heard some bad things about them. Turns out Bayview has a Gear-God... he's done something like 2000 rear-ends.

BTW, Bayview is located in Bremerton, but only for the next 2 days... after 15 or so years there, they're moving to Silverdale this weekend.
 
#6 ·
Austin said:
Travis -

Bayview 4x4 did the install. I'd originally called Randy's Ring & Pinion to do it (they're huge, and they're over on your side of the water), but heard some bad things about them. Turns out Bayview has a Gear-God... he's done something like 2000 rear-ends.

BTW, Bayview is located in Bremerton, but only for the next 2 days... after 15 or so years there, they're moving to Silverdale this weekend.

I don't mind driving to get this done....maybe I can fit in a round of golf over there while they hammer it out?

Thanks for the info!
 
#8 ·
travisreed said:
I don't mind driving to get this done....maybe I can fit in a round of golf over there while they hammer it out?

Thanks for the info!
I don't really like the golf aspect of golf, but I definitely like the go-kart and beer aspects. I'll volunteer to be your golf chauffeur when you get this done... assuming there is room in the cart for a cooler.

I'll post a good source to buy from when Detroit releases the Truetrac - you can just have it shipped directly to Bayview when you're ready. Also, shoot me a PM when you're ready and I'll give you contact info for Bayview.
 
#9 ·
Mustard said:
What did it cost and how much was installation? Also are they available to all dealers?
Your installation cost will depend on where you go to have it installed. I'd guess between $100-$200, but that's just a guess.

The final pricing on the Truetrac should be somewhere around $500, but again that's just a guess. I'm not connected to Detroit in any way other than I know a guy... so I can't tell you what the price is until they set it.
 
#10 ·
great news austin.....as soon as you hear about the release please let us know......i cant wait to get one of these babies on!!
 
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#12 ·
Austin,

Will this take care of the rear diff. blow-out that some of us have been having? <- To me this is the most important question. The next being: What do us with 4x4 have to do to make this work? either post or PM me a reply.

Thanks
 
#13 ·
Kooshtaka said:
Austin,

Will this take care of the rear diff. blow-out that some of us have been having? <- To me this is the most important question. The next being: What do us with 4x4 have to do to make this work? either post or PM me a reply.

Thanks

Austin's truck is a 4x4.
 
#16 ·
Kooshtaka said:
Will this take care of the rear diff. blow-out that some of us have been having?
Yes.

The Truetrac is much MUCH stronger and more stout than our OEM differentials. There are 900hp drag Mustangs using Truetracs. I did a 2 wheel burnout today on dry pavement, with 37" tires... no way would I have attempted that with the OEM diff, either 2 pinion or 4 pinion.


Kooshtaka said:
What do us with 4x4 have to do to make this work?
There were a couple minor issues with this beta unit. Those issues should be resolved by the time Detroit releases these for sale. Assuming they are resolved, all you'll need to do is buy a Truetrac and take it to a shop to have it installed. Bearings and axle oil seals can all be reused.

If you're a 4x4 with an OEM locking diff, you might need a short M14x1.5 bolt to plug a hole in the diff housing caused by removing the diff lock position switch from the housing. If you had to buy this bolt yourself, you should expect to spend at least $0.50 or $0.55. Not a big deal.
 
#19 ·
dareed02 said:
will this new diff work on non-offroad 4x4 Titans?
Yes, the Truetrac will work in 4x4 or 4x2 Titans.

Offroad, non-offroad, big tow, non-big tow... doesn't matter.

The Truetrac does not change your gear ratio - your original ring gear is unbolted from your OEM diff carrier and bolted onto the Truetrac carrier.
 
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#22 · (Edited)
RB's Titan said:
Anyone know if that includes the shipping? I never bought from Summit.

ive bought several things from them and they have no shipping charge but do have a 9.50 handling charge.....always stand behind product to!
 
#23 ·
RB's Titan said:
Anyone know if that includes the shipping? I never bought from Summit.
I took my order up to the part where you add your credit card info and the handling charges for ground shipping (to my location) was $9.50. They are also out of stock and stated it wouldn't ship until 4/1.

I took it that far just to see the total cost shipped. :coolsmile

I'm going to hold back until I know for sure I have the exact part number needed for this mod. :teeth:
 
#24 ·
FlimFlamMan said:
I'm going to hold back until I know for sure I have the exact part number needed for this mod. :teeth:

The part number posted above is the same number my unit shipped with - 913A582.

I'd hold off ordering from Summit, though. My guy at Detroit is the aftermarket sales manager, and he's said he'll work us a deal. I bet he can beat Summit's price. Besides, Summit can't get them until Detroit ships them, and you'll know the day that happens.
 
#25 ·
maybe austin can get us a good deal through his source.........thanks austin....you the man!!!