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blueskys said:
The SAWS and DRs are too expensive.
worth every penny too!



blueskys said:
I have heard that Bilstein is bringing a new adjustable Titan shock to the market soon. One that raises the front end some. Perhaps I will wait to see this one.
i believe greg already has them and has been selling quite a few of the bilstein shocks for the front of the titan. from what i've read provide a bit of lift for leveling purposes, but still... no where near the strength and durability of a coilover such as a SAW or DR.
 
For around $700 these Radflo coilovers for stock Titans sound like a good option for someone wanting better quality than the Bilstein struts, and the capability to lift the front.
This is from PRGproducts.com
RADFLO 2" COILOVERS
These 2.0" Radflo coilover shocks provide 0-3" lift on 4WD and 1 to 4" on 2WD and greatly improve the ride of your truck
$699 - FREE SHIPPING
 
I'm waiting on the adjustable Bilstein 5100's.

http://www.titantalk.com/forums/titan-suspension/60336-bilstein-adjustable-5100s.html

The Bilstein's Greg is selling is just a replacement shock for the front - non-adjustable and will not level the truck. You have to add his spacer kit to level.

I wish someone would post some results of the Rancho "Quick Lift" shocks for the front of the Titan. They have been available on the market since earlier this year. I know someone on this forum has tried them. They are also supposed to level the front of the truck like the adj. Bilteins.
 
hooligan said:
that's how i have my rear shock on my downhill/freeride mtn bike and my Radflos also feel setup just like that! the rebound valving on my 2.0 Radflos are a bit heavier/slower than my bilsteins i had in back.
Why does it not surprise me your one of those DH racing lunatics
And before you ask no I'm not a lycra wearin XC boy:bouncy:
 
I had the bilstein levelers on my 05 tacoma...they are great for hauling, towing and mild offroading! they control the body well as well as resist bottoming out, at least while they are not faded....I heard they were coming in Oct.

and don't trust any company that paints there shocks white (procomp, rancho, etc)
 
and don't trust any company that paints there shocks white (procomp, rancho, fabtech, etc)
Amen brother!
"If the shocks are white, they're just not right..."
 
Bandala said:
You ladies are so sensible; you're almost crying because somebody has his own opinion.

The Ranchos are working for my application; so what?
Alwayse nice to see a different review. You are entitled to your wrong opinion ;)

Sounds like you were looking for more of a street shock with a really cushy ride, which is why you figure the rachos were the best so far. Makes sense to me, but you could have gone with a better street / road shock than ranchos.

The OEM Rachos have some excelent Foam Rubber in them instead of oil and gas lol. Their higher end stuff is ok at best, just behind the times. If you actualy go offroad and hit whoops and hard bumps at 45+ your review on these different shocks might change a bit.

Sorry Speed bumps on the road don't count, compleatly different. Also did you get the DR's from greg? Remember Shock Valving is Key, you can have a cheap POS that is valved properly blow away and expensive shock that is valved incorrectly. If you did not get the DR's with custom Titan valving, then that too would make a noticable difference.
 
Bandala said:
I'm a suspension freak, with my truck ('04 CC 4x4 LE) and my motocross bike; so I've tried all these shocks and these are my findings.

Stock: Real soft, good ride quality, don't like rough roads and won't last more than six months if you use them regularly on this kind of roads; bad bottoming resistance. I replaced my stock shocks with original Nissan's and same thing; they only lasted about five months. I paid about $70 ea. from my local dealer. I only replaced the front, not the rear because these are ok. I'm talking about the Tokiko shocks, not the Rancho OEM.

Monroe: Same ride quality than stock but last longer. They're ok.

DR's (front and rear): Too stiff in my opinion; I live in an area with realy rough roads and these caused the body of my truck to develop too many rattles. I tried several spring preload settings and same thing. I think that they're using a spring rate that is too high for everyday use. The rear caused the truck to go out of line when hitting a bump while going through a turn at speed (fast or moderate). Real expensive, I paid around $1400 for the set of four.

Rancho RS9000X (front and rear): These are the best so far, I really like them. They're adjustable for compresion and rebound (nine positions), you can go from softer than stock to much firmer. They use the stock spring, which in my opinion, it's the best spring rate for the Titan. Position #3 is about the same than stock, you can go from there all the way to position #9, the higher the number the stiffer they get. They come with a leveling kit; that's a cool feature. I paid $700 fo all four installed - not bad when you consider that they perform better than the DR's for half the price.
I was considering to install the kit to adjust them from inside the cab, but a Rancho representative was honest enough to tell me that I was going to have lots of problems with it, so i didn't get it.
I really recommend these.

That's it, I'll continue on my quest for the perfect set-up; I'll keep you posted with my findings, my wallet permitting.

Since you dont like your dr's I will give you 200 bucks for them. Also I will tell you what you should get next and if you don't like those I will buy them for 200 bucks too!!!! But for real, It sounds like you are only running shocks and nothing else, For going down a plain dirt road or on the street your ranchos maybe what you need and that great, But putting this up on this forum will get you all kinds of answers, I can tell you my truck when I went to bigger tires a/t's and a 6 inch lift with fox coilovers the ride was better then stock on and off road. Most of the guys around here run their trucks harder so some of the stuff they use is much better then what you or I use, So keep your chin up you will find whats best for you and remember I will buy all of your test shocks you use!
 
Justintoxicated said:
Also did you get the DR's from greg? Remember Shock Valving is Key, you can have a cheap POS that is valved properly blow away and expensive shock that is valved incorrectly. If you did not get the DR's with custom Titan valving, then that too would make a noticable difference.
the DRs are not custom valved by Greg, nor have they at any time since their release. the DRs have a precise valving that it comes with out the door from DR. Greg had much to do with the development of the shock with input and participation in the testing but the valving is solely DR's. now, for more of a custom precision valve job, definitely go with the SAWs, those are valved exactly to Greg's specs as are the Radflos.


krnnerdboy said:
I had the bilstein levelers on my 05 tacoma...they are great for hauling, towing and mild offroading! they control the body well as well as resist bottoming out, at least while they are not faded....I heard they were coming in Oct.
excellent point when stating... "mild offroading" while the bilsteins provide excellent dampening for the money they are still susceptible to failure, least the bottom of the barrel bilsteins are... i have seen a few bilsteins when subjected to hard offroading, bent at this same location... see pic:

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krnnerdboy said:
...and don't trust any company that paints there shocks white (procomp, rancho, etc)
actually, while i agree 100% with this and laugh hysterically at loufish's quote, the procomp MX6 shocks as rear shocks for the titan are actually pretty good. they too are of a monotube design and 6 way adjustable. i believe they are the Robby Gordon signature series.
 
37L1 said:
Guys, you are so close together geographically speaking. Why don't you meet up for some off roading, compare notes, share expertise and you would all be better off than squabbling, don't you think?
they dont have to meet. i went out with the off-road crew to j-valley. i have the rancho 4" lift with rancho 9000. the new ones that are suposed to be the best. i was keeping up with hooli and my struts were toast. the ranchos blow for desert running. the prg kit is the best for your buck at this time. im planing on switching out to the prg kit.
 
kronos2 said:
they dont have to meet. i went out with the off-road crew to j-valley. i have the rancho 4" lift with rancho 9000. the new ones that are suposed to be the best. i was keeping up with hooli and my struts were toast. the ranchos blow for desert running. the prg kit is the best for your buck at this time. im planing on switching out to the prg kit.
Which one? RS9000X, or the new RS9000XL? Big difference in the two.
 
hooligan said:
these ranchos are newer or have been updated. kronos' ranchos have a silver finish and i'm not sure they're even of RS9000X standards but just Ranchos run of the mill offering for an offroad version titan.
they are RS9000x struts and shocks
 
Here are a few pics of why I really recommend a good shock. The first pic is of a good 'ol Rancho. These had abour 25k miles. Now I know they dont all look this bad, but here you go for fun. The others are of the new Bilstein replacement struts, these are much better then stock in just about every way, but they cannot handle the abuse of spirted driving like a race-oriented shock can(these were used on a PC lift, more about that later, nothing to do with the lift though). As for the best riding shocks, that is really user dependent. But there is no way in the world that a twin-tube anything can hold its own to a tuned mono-tube. Keep in mind that any of the race-type shocks that we sell can be tuned to fit your ride tastes (Radflo, Sway-A-Way, Fox, King, DRE) and there is about 1000x the adjustment range of a Rancho 9000 or mx-6 you just need to open them up and change shims. Although its not really a do-it-yourself proceedure, the process takes about 10 minutes with the shocks and springs removed. As for the srping rate being to high and causing a harsh ride, absolutly not the case. The springs control ride height and very slow-speed wheel movments, the faster the wheel moves the more the shocks start to work and the less the spring has to do with the ride quality. Harshness is from the shocks (unless an absurdly heavy spring is used, which the DRE do not use too heavy of spring). Enjoy.
 

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speaking of boddy rattle....how many of you have noticed your truck has developed excessive body rattle. Just this weekend I took a trip to Mike's Sky Ranch in Baja with my Titan. I really noticed how crappy the stock rancho's are once the fade hit. On the way there, I was taking it easy enjoying the sites, but on the way back, I pushed the truck and it really started to push back.

I know DR's and Radflo's would help tremendously, but how much truth is their to the original posters comment. Will I notice an increase in every day rattle with the new ride, or not. How long can I off-road this truck before it starts to sound like my 93 suburban did?
 
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