I know a few guys that own new Tundras. Everyone loves them. I was going to buy a Tundra instead of my Titan. We got my wife an Armada and I loved it, so it sold me on Nissans. Just opinions, so its probably not much help.

Oh, the only thing bad I found was videos of the bed bouncing. I guess the rear section of the frame flexes a lot.

 

Well you can look up the specs and see that the Tundra is a more powerful truck. I know their drivetrain is pretty beefy as well I think they have a 10.5" rear end. They have a 6 spd to our 5 spd. They look awesome lifted or leveled with bigger tires but kinda look gay with the stock tires and wheels. Also the interior is fugly IMO. They also tow a little bit more if that matters to you.

 

to me the tundras are butt ugly! they look swollen. the drive train is nice tho. i drove one with the 5.7 and it was nice. but i have raced a couple and beat them both. but its just opinions. get what you like

 

This is not going to help in any way, but a friend of mine has a Tundra and there are things I like about his truck and things he likes about mine. As far as ride and power go they're about the same and the same goes for real world fuel economy (or lack of LOL).

It's really a matter of personal taste between the two.

 

Tundra - no box frame = EPIC FAIL

 

Ditto! That alone is the reason I'm keeping the Titan. That and I'd never recoup all the cash I've spent modding it.

However, if a killer deal on a Black DC TRD Supercharged one presented itself like the one in the video... Bye, bye Titan. Only because both wouldn't fit in the garage.

 

I test drove both Tundra and a Titan before I got my Titan. I really liked the Tundra but price was a primary concern. Now I can't imagine not having my Titan I absolutely love it!!

 

If I wanted to buy something that looked like a whale... I'd buy a real whale.

 

This quote is cracking me up!!!

 

Tundra looks ugly and small. I've ridden in one and it rides like crap. Worse than an F350. No absorption at all. Horrible truck. I'd never even consider owning one. I'd go with a GMC before the Tundra. My mom's owned 2. She now owns a Titan and will never go back to the Tundra. They are expensive as hell, too!

 

Tundra = FAIL

On rough and washboard surfaces, the Tundra isn’t particularly at home. Steering shock is better than some other trucks in the class, especially Dodge, but the rest of the structure creaks and rattles like an old farmhouse in a Force 10 gale. The worst is the rear. Because Toyota uses reinforced C-shaped frame rails out back (not fully boxed sections), rear end flex is very noticeable, especially over bad ruts and potholes, the box almost dancing independently from the cab. Over the long term, this can cause real durability problems, especially if you do tow with your truck or work in a construction zone where daily excursions on rough surfaces are a given.

• New base V8 still lacks low-end torque
• Build quality not up to usual Toyota standards
• Weak frame design
• Factory equipment tires

2010 Toyota Tundra 4x4 Double Cab 4.6L Review: Car Reviews

 

Weak frame design as the F250 and Semi's. Interesting. I don't have to dig up some review(an opinion of someone) for the Titan, we have a whole board full of problems listed right here, by owners, lack of support from the MFG, outdated truck, not recommended by Consumer Reports for relability, rear axles, front axles, radiators, the list goes on and on and on.... too many to list. Out of Ford, Chevy, Toyota and Titan the Titan is not even in the game and apparently that's the way Nissan wants it.

 

If you go by numbers the Tundra wins, no question. If you go by real world experience then it's equal and I not talking racing either. My opinion, I don't like the Tundra's interior or most of the exterior. The ride is good but not better. I have friend, co-workers and vendors that have jumped on the Tundra band wagon. They like the truck and they also have their share of complaints. Suspension is too soft, sucky brakes, weird shifting trany, body flex (more on that) bad fuel use when towing, weak top end when towing, ect ect. First the body flexing. A co-worker got his truck catywhompas on the job site goofing around. He was purposely trying to climb a mound of dirt at an angle. he got up, got stuck and got out of the truck. Got back in the truck and the door would shut. Once the truck got level the door shut fine. I did the same thing and didn't have a problem. A vendor of mine has a fleet of Titans, 6 2005 4x4 KCs. The owner, Jose went and bought a new Tundra. He claims it gets worse gas mileage when towing and at HWY speeds it doesn't have the same power as the Titan, after owning it 2 months he can't give a good review just yet. You never hear a Toyota owner complain about mechanical problem, why? because they are too proud and need to justify over spending.

Me, I have two Titans with a combine 227,000 miles. Yes they have had issues. Both had the manifolds replace, both had rear seals replaced, both had front pinion seals and both had the upper PS hose replaced. My KC has been trouble free for 65K miles except for a rear seal that was never replaced. Dad's 2007 with 43,000 miles has never been to the dealer except for a bad battery. What is keeping me from buying another Titan is Nissan's current packages. I want the proper TOW package without all the other BS and I don't want the base XE truck with gears and no mirrors.

 

If you go by reviews, the Tundra is usually (not always) far back on the list. Usually the only thing they get credit for is their sheer straight line power, even while towing. They handle like a goofy guy tripping over some large feet. I used to think they looked pretty good, but now, I see few that I like. I spent a long weekend with a friend with a Tundra. The DC was nearly as big as my CC and it drove much smoother then my titan (before I got Bilsteins on the rear, then the Titan was better). The Titan just has its following because it will grab your heart if you drive one for too long. The power is real good, and when driving, it always felt athletic and nimble for a full size. I would drive mine for no reason, because I really enjoyed it. However, if I was to bet on which truck would be more reliable, I'd have to go with the Tundra

 

I researched and drove F-150's, Tundras and Titans before I bought my Titan in October, I liked different things about each truck and was willing to buy any one of the 3 (3 previous trucks have been Fords). Bottom line it came down to price. I got a great deal on my Titan, and no one else came close or was even willing to bargain. I knocked my Titan down to almost $28,000 before trade in ($21k after trade). There is no way I could have gotten a Ford or Toyota for anywhere near that price. I have only had it for 5 months, but I'm extremely happy with the truck and glad I didn't spend an extra 8 to 10 grand on another truck.

 

i have seen the tundras and titans offroading and so far i stick with titan... but the tundra does look nice lifted and some fat tires..

 

I like this tundra, saw it today while viewing the world series trophy.

 

hey guys i remember reading a tread about some issues with the front axles, and since we are talking in part about defect, can some one direct me to it. thanks

 

Newer Titans don't have a transmission dipstick either.

 

Yes the Titan is a little outdated. But when the 2nd gen Titan comes out, guess who will be outdated? The other 4...

At least for a few years until the other 4 start releasing their new ones.

Also, the other 4 have had MUCH longer to get there **** together. This was Nissan's first full size truck, they did one helluva job considering.

 

Just wait until 2013/2014, Ford, GM, Dodge, Nissan, and Toyota are all coming out with new 1/2 ton models.

 

I bought my 08' Titan just a few weeks ago. I bought the Titan from North Park Toyota in San Antonio Texas. This is the largest Toyota Dealership in South Texas. I went to North park to test drive 2 vehicles, my Titan and a
08' Certified Tundra. Both were 08' models and my Titan had 15k miles and the Tundra had 37k miles. I test drove the Tundra first and they have a course that is like 6 miles long. Then I test drove my Titan, and I thought the titan had more pep and also it felt more refined like driving a luxury SUV. When we got back to the dealership the decision was easy for me. I chose the Titan and have been pleased with the decision so far. I could have afforded either vehicle so money was not a deciding factor I just felt like the Titan was the superior vehicle based on performance, ride quality and refinement. I sold my 2004 Chevy Silverado 1500 z-71 5.3l just before purchasing my Titan and I do not miss the Chevy at all. The Titan is way faster, better riding and refined than both the Tundra and Z-71 IMO. If I had to do it all over again I would not have done a thing different. I purchased a 5yr 60,000 mile bumper to bumper warranty as well so I have protection should any problems occur in the future.

 

I hate when people try to use the Super Duty/Big Rig excuse when talking about the open C-channel frame under the bed of the Tundra. I've been behind old F250's/F350's and Big Rigs with open C-channel frames while going over railroad tracks, pot holes, ect, and the amount of bed/frame twist I see is horrifying. Big Rigs are a different class with much larger frames and thicker sections, so comparing them to a 1/2 ton PU like the Tundra is an apples to watermelon comparision. When Toyota went with the Triple Tech hybrid frame on the Tundra, this was primarily due to cost cutting pure and simple. The extra five pounds of material it would have taken to produce a fully boxed frame would have been neglible with a stout 381hp rated engine. This so called "allowing the frame to flex under load" is engineer double speak for we wanted to save costs on frame materials. Not only that, but the cross members are "riveted" to the main rails. Riveted! No doubt this feature was allowed to simplify and reduce manufacturing costs.

All of this was just an attempt to save on material and assembly costs, pure and simple. The Hilux replacement, Tacoma, went to an open C-channel frame under the bed back in '95. The older Hilux PU's had fully boxed frames. I had one those Hilux PU's, an '88 single cab, and with 400K+ original miles it was still as vault-like tight as it was when it was new. Over the lifetime of the vehicle, the constant stress load cycles of the frame bending and twisting under load will ultimately weaken it. A fully boxed frame with welded cross members will resist these forces more than a hybrid open C-channel frame with riveted cross members. Wait until these new Tundra's are 15-20 years old. The ones that have endured severe duty are going to be floppy messes.

The impressive 381hp/6sp auto tranny back in '07 got many into the showrooms. However, 381hp is just middle of the pack for 1/2 ton trucks these days. The only thing the Tundra really had over the others was the promise of Toyota quality and resale value. Unfortunately, the recent recalls and problems reported by many owners have seriously erroded some of those advantages.

I test drove a new Tundra back when they first came out and I wasn't overly impressed. It had a lot of power with the 5.7L engine, but when I took the WOT restriction off my Titan with the Bully Dog programmer, the power didn't seem so impressive. I did notice that the Tundra didn't handle as well as my Titan. The steering seemed to have a more vague on-center feel to it compared to the Titan. Overall, I'm glad I got a Titan instead.

Even lifted, the Tundras look kind of stupid. The Crewmax is not proportioned right with those long azz rear doors making them look like stretched limos or something. The single cabs have doors that are way too long. The double cabs are the only ones that look somewhat proportional, but the angled rear window makes them goofy from certain angles.

 

Ya the older ones were bad with twisting, atleast the F150s were that I know for sure. The Superduty 1999+ F250/350 is a Superduty not the one before the model year 1999.

 

Alot of good points in here.

I have had two Titans - 04 and 08 - and liked both of them, but I didn't find an overly high build quality in either of the Titans. They were fun to drive, especially with a few aftermarket goodies. They spent way too much time in the shop and the mileage in the 08 was awful. Now I think they just look dated and need a major refresh - changing the grill, bumpers, and badge locations don't count.

Having never been in a new Tundra, I can't comment there, but I do think the look is way ahead of the Titan, especially lifted.

 

Villim, you need to change your sig since you have a F-350 now =)

 

Here piggy piggy piggy ...

 

^^^^HAHAHA i actually went to buy a new tudie b/c i had one in the past and it treated me so well. for one the interior didnt please me, for 2 they would not work me a deal. nissan gave me a smokin' deal on my titan that i could not pass up. i later on found out the early tundras had a problem with the cams and my buddy that is a tech at toyota syas "if you tow with those things kiss the tranny goodbye." goodluck!

 

Every truck has problems.I have had a 05 titan good truck had a few of the normal problems.Traded it off for a newer frontier(07),lacked power pulling my bass boat over the hill.Now i have a 08 dc tundra 5.7...the interior of my titan felt cheap(05 xe)power was good.The tundra interior quality seems much beter. granted its a limited(more crap) ,now for the power the tundra runs very strong.both trucks have cai and exhaust.The tundra has more power than the early titans,and give a newer stock titan a good run.The bed bounce is a bunch of crap,never had my a$$ bounce or no air pump issues at 50k.

 

I can relate to the 05 XE crappy interior. Although that 2008+ Pro-4x interior is leaps and bounds better